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Old 04-28-2004, 02:28 PM   #1 of 7
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Some Yamaha Questions Answered by Yamaha


Recently, a few questions about Yamaha products have come up throughout this forum in several threads and I decided to get some answers. I emailed the Service Manager at Yamaha Canada and got back responses very quickly. Since the questions have come up in several threads, I'll summarize all the Q&As in this single thread with references to the originating threads.

Q: I have a full set of JBL Studio Series speakers (6 for a 6.1 set up). They are all timbre matched 3-way speakers, i.e. they all have 1" titanium tweeters, 4" midrange drivers, and similar low-freq woofers ranging from 5.25" to 10". My front speakers are large floorstanding towers with 10" woofers, and the common tweeter and midrange driver. My center has the common tweeter and midrange but it has dual 5.25" woofers. The 3 surrounds each have the common tweeter and midrange but 6" woofers. That being said, I've run the parametric equalization in "FLAT" mode and was pleased with the results so I didn't try the other modes. Would you recommend, considering the fact that my front speakers are so much larger than the rest, that I should run the parametric equalization in "FRONT" mode instead? The manual is unclear about this and only says to use "FRONT" mode if/when the front speakers are of higher quality than the rest. What exactly does the manual mean by "higher quality"? All my speakers are built with identical materials, all timbre matched with common tweeters and midrange drivers, but the fronts are much larger than the rest. Does that qualify my front speakers as "higher quality" than the rest of the speakers in my set up?
A: Based on your speakers I would set it up as you have. Higher quality means just that. Higher quality speakers not bigger.
Originating Thread: On a related note, how did you run the Parametric EQ? Flat? ...

Q: Is Yamaha planning to release an RX-V line receiver higher than the 2400 to fill the huge gap between the RX-V2400 and flagship RX-Z1? For example, is there a plan to launch an RX-V3400, as there was an older RX-V3300.
A: No.
Originating Thread: Are there any rumours or suspiscions of a model being produced that bridges the gap between the RXV2400 and flagship RXZ9 recievers...

Q: I understand Yamaha's policy about not providing a manufacturer's warranty on their products if they are not purchased from an Authorized Reseller. However, there is some talk on Home Theater Forum about that rule only applying to the RX-V line of receivers, i.e. people are saying that the warranty still applies to the HTR line of receivers even if those receivers are purchased from non-authorized Yamaha resellers. Do you know if that's true? I ask because I have convinced a friend of mine to purchase a Yamaha receiver and he is considering the HTR-5790.
A: Home theater forum is not Yamaha. We only provide warranty on Canadian products sold through our authorized dealers regardless of the model.
Originating Thread: Wayne, are you implying that Yamaha will honor a warantee of an HTR that wasn't purchased from an authorized internet seller? ...

Q: How does the HTR-5790 compare to the RX-V1400 and RX-V2400. Based on the spec sheet alone, it seems to be the same. Are higher quality components used in the RX-V line? I understand the HTR line is intended for mainstream stores (FutureShop, Best Buy, etc.), but from a consumer standpoint what is the point of paying more money for an RX-V1400 when the equivalent HTR-5790 can be had for much less?
A: The 1400 and the 5790 are the same except the model numbers to differentiate sales channels.
Originating Thread: What is the point of making the HTR and RX series then. They look the same to me. Just odd since I can't think of any other company that does that...

I hope this helps clear up some Yamaha-related confusion for people.
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Old 04-28-2004, 04:45 PM   #2 of 7
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nice post muneeb - thanks for doing the legwork!

personally, i'm glad to know the 1400 & 5790 are similar ... which is pretty much what i figured anyway. darn marketing politics...


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Old 04-28-2004, 11:09 PM   #3 of 7
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Q: Is Yamaha planning to release an RX-V line receiver higher than the 2400 to fill the huge gap between the RX-V2400 and flagship RX-Z1? For example, is there a plan to launch an RX-V3400, as there was an older RX-V3300.


Thanks Muneeb.......that was my question.
Bummer though that the answer is no.
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Old 04-29-2004, 07:47 AM   #4 of 7
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Thanks for that info! I would have liked to see what his comments are about the 5760's YPAO that doesnt include the "P" portion haha. I agree with some of the others on the forum that if the reciever does not include the parametric eq then Yamaha should not market it with that acronym.
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Old 04-29-2004, 10:05 AM   #5 of 7
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Great info, thanks for sharing.
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Old 04-29-2004, 11:23 AM   #6 of 7
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Thanks for that info! I would have liked to see what his comments are about the 5760's YPAO that doesnt include the "P" portion haha. I agree with some of the others on the forum that if the reciever does not include the parametric eq then Yamaha should not market it with that acronym.

Actually, I received a response from Yamaha a few days ago as follows:

Hello Wayne:
In response to your email: The HTR-5760 does have the YAPO feature.
The receiver (HTR-5760) employs the Yamaha Parametric Room Acoustic
Optimizer (YAPO) technology which lets you avoid troublesome listening
based speaker setup and achieves highly accurate sound adjustments.
This is all listed on page 25 of the owners manual. What type of
speakers are you using? Are they different brands or different speaker
sizes? The only thing that the HTR-5790 as far as YAPO that the HTR-5760 does not is the Equalizing feature. This is only useful if the brands or sizes of speakers for some channels or if you have a room with uniques sonic characteristics. But over all the HTR-5760 has all of the
YPAO capabilities which are needed to utilize this feature in your system. Sorry for any inconvenience and Thank you for choosing Yamaha!
af


And, here was my response to that E-mail. I have not heard a response back from Yamaha regarding my latest communication:
I do realize what you are trying to say. However, my disappointment comes from the fact that the acronym "YPAO" has "P" in it which means parametric. The HTR-5760 should have included the parametric EQ if Yamaha wanted to advertise it as YPAO capable. Again, I bought the receiver based on this information provided on your Web site, but feel that I was misled.

The dealer I purchased the HTR-5760 from does not accept any returns what-so-ever unless the products is received "DOA." In my situation, I would have clearly upgraded to the HTR-5790 where it features a real parametric EQ as part of YPAO itself.

Being that I can't return the HTR-5760 to the dealer and upgrade to the HTR-5790, I was to find out how Yamaha will work with me to resolve this situation. I would really like for Yamaha to find a way to offer me the HTR-5790 and replace the HTR-5760 that can't be returned to the location of preference. This would greatly clear up the aggravation that I have towards the misrepresentation of YPAO on the HTR-5760 model of receiver.

Please let me know the next steps on getting my situation resolved.

Finally, I do lots of audio system reviews which leads to members who read such reviews to make their purchase decisions based on these reviews. I would love to go back and update my reviews to show how Yamaha resolved the misrepresentation issue of YPAO on the HTR-5760 receiver.

After all, if we by a car which has A/C on it because we need air conditioning. However, when we buy the car and realize that it has only "air" which is supplied via the air vents and there is no "conditioning" as part of the A/C package, we tend to feel cheated because the manufacturer plastered their brochures that the automobile has A/C ... when in effect they were only deceiving the consumer and only providing half of what was expected by the consumer and their advertising was a fraud because it mis-stated the true, but limited capabilities of the vehicle.

Hopefully, you see the point I'm trying to make here.

Thank you,

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Old 04-29-2004, 02:31 PM   #7 of 7
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oh i already read yours wayne!!

i am just curious to see how they will respond to you. I have always been apposed to any major equalization and I cant justify paying the difference between the 5760 and the 5790, so I will be probebly be going with the 5760.
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