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Old 11-15-2003, 08:06 AM   #1 of 14
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Question for those that have moved up to a separate amp.


I have a question for those that have moved up from a single receiver to a receiver and amp combo or a pre/pro combo; "Did your sound quality improve immensely?"

I currently have an Outlaw 1050. It does quite well with my more modest Klipsch speakers and SVS subs. But I was wondering if I might hear a difference if I moved up to a separate amp controlled by my Outlaw? Is the sound quality alone justification enough to purchase one?

I know in car audio when adding a powerul, well made amp to your head unit there is a night and day difference in the quality, presence and punch of the music. Is this the same for home theater?



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Old 11-15-2003, 08:23 AM   #2 of 14
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I added a Yammie M-70 (200wpc) to my fronts. I noticed a huge difference with music but very little on movies. This may be due to the fact that I KNOW my music and what to look for per changes.
You have a nice receiver and efficient spks. It's hard for me to say that you will hear a huge difference.
It certainly won't be a jump like you hear in the car audio situation. Those little amps in the head-units are pretty poor IMO.
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Old 11-15-2003, 10:46 AM   #3 of 14
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The standard reply to your question is for you to try it yourself. Outlaw has a very liberal return policy, you'd only be out shipping charges if you didn't like it. You may also be able to get an amp at a local dealer to try out, or perhaps an in-store demo comparing a receiver alone vs. receiver as prepro & amp.
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Old 11-15-2003, 11:19 AM   #4 of 14
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It depends entirely on the quality of the amps in your receiver. When I "upgraded" from an Onkyo 919 receiver to a Sherwood Newcastle AM-9080/AV-P9080 combo the difference was barely perceptible. (the difference in usability and convenience was huge - that's what I was after)



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Old 11-15-2003, 11:30 AM   #5 of 14
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I upgraded to a B&K Reference 200.5 amp and use my Denon 4802 as a pre/pro with Definitive Tech 2002TL's, CLR 2500 center and Bi-Pole surrounds. This upgrade made a huge increase in headroom as well as bass response. I am now looking to upgrade to a seperate pre/pro. I would do this upgrade again in a heart beat.
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Old 11-15-2003, 11:53 AM   #6 of 14
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For me, adding an amp opened things up when I wanted to play things louder than normal. Of course, my speakers have an 89 db sensitivity, so it's hard to say if you'll notice much difference with your very sensitive Klipsch speakers. I imagine they are probably rated in the 95 + range.

If you plan to move to seperates anyways then purchasing an amp as an intermmediate step isn't a bad idea.

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Old 11-15-2003, 09:45 PM   #7 of 14
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Remember also that you may still find uses for the receiver's amp section - bi-amping, zone 2, back surround, etc. You might want to try adding a 2 or 3 channel amp for the fronts, and let your receiver continue to power the surrounds. This can give you the most "bang for your buck". I bought a mint adcom 3X175 on ebay for $400, and it made a nice impact on my system...
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Old 11-16-2003, 11:49 PM   #8 of 14
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Hmmm...I didn't think about going with a 3-channel amp for the mains and center.

I mean I've already got a 700 watt Samson amp for my dual 25-31 CS's. Plenty there. And most of my hardcore listening is done in stereo mode with music (very loud levels). And I have plenty of ooomph from the surrounds for movies. (I can't listen to movies to loud when the family is around.) So a 3-channel might be what the doctor ordered. I'll have to do some shopping around.

Thanks for the replies everyone!



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Old 11-17-2003, 12:20 AM   #9 of 14
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I added an Acurus a200x5 to my Denon 3802 and it really opened up the sound and added a new dimension to both music and movies--even my wife noticed the difference. I no have a JBL Synthesis 5 channel amp with a Citation 7.1 bridged for my mains running off an Outlaw 950. It was worth the upgrade for the amp to the Denon and definately worth the upgrade to what I have now.

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Old 11-17-2003, 06:46 AM   #10 of 14
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That's a question with an answer that's specific to the equipment that you have, the room it's in (size, assorted sonic attributes, etc.) the sound levels you desire, and whether what you have is limiting in some way. In your particular case, not knowing the room, I'd say it's doubtful that your sound quality would improve immensely. This is based upon having stated you own some sort of Klipsch s