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Old 04-18-2003, 07:23 AM   #1 of 80
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Which Pre/Pro to buy?


I am in the market for a pre/pro to replace my Denon 4802 which I have been using for a pre/pro. I am currently using this set up with a B&K 200.5 amp which I am happy with. The pre/pros I am considering are all over the board. The B&K Ref. 50 is one but I am a little nervouse with the S/N buzz I have been reading about. The Anthem AVM20 is another as well as the Krell 7.1 which retails for 4000 grand. I might be interested in the Classe SSP 60 which retails for 5000 grand but have not heard this unit yet. It is stretching to spend 5 but if any one knows anything about this unit and can give me some input I would appreciate it. What are the differences between the units as in reliability, warranty issues, customer support, ease of use etc. This will be in a dedicated theater room and I do not care for multi room operation. I know they will have it but I do not plan on using it.

Thanks for any input.

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Old 04-18-2003, 08:46 AM   #2 of 80
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I'd take a look at the Lexicon MC-8
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Old 04-18-2003, 10:17 AM   #3 of 80
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Unless you listen with your ears against the speaker at deafening levels you will never hear any noise w/ the B&K. I did an ab comparison in my house between the B&K and the Krell, for theater and multichannel music I found no difference, for 2 channel stereo I would give the edge to the Krell.
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Old 04-18-2003, 10:48 AM   #4 of 80
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What about sherbourn combo PT-7000 Pre Processor and 7/2100 7-Channel Amplifier or 5/5210 5-Channel Amplifier.


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Old 04-18-2003, 11:31 AM   #5 of 80
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A couple of prepros in this price range

Aragon Stage One
Integra Research RDC-7(maybe even the new DTC-9.4)
Krell Showcase
Sunfire Theater Grand III
Tag McLaren AV32R-bp192



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Old 04-18-2003, 02:28 PM   #6 of 80
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Ted,

If this system will have any 2-channel aspirations at all (even just 10% of your time), then my advice will be contrary to most anyone else on this site.

First of all, I will assume you aren't fabulously wealthy with unlimited funds. If you truly have hundreds of thousands of dollars to throw at your system, then you can certainly ignore my advice.

Otherwise, my advice is to spend as little as you can tolerate on a pre/pro. It's application (along with any multi-channel power amp you mate it with) will not require mega-buck resolution. It will just be used for dialog (Center Speaker), LFE (subwoofer), and effects/noises (rear and side speakers). None of these signals will need the "hi-end" capability required of critical 2-channel music reproduction. (Actually, there's no reason to overspend on those speakers either).

Instead, dedicate the lion's share of your budget on a stereo preamp, stereo power amp (or monoblocks), and main speakers. They will incur double duty as the foundation of your Home Theater for multi-channel as well as the sole participants in music playback. for my home system, my HT Integrated/processor costs about 1.5 % of my total budget.

If you feel I'm completely loony, I'm sure you're not alone. Otherwise, you can find some of my older posts that describe this philosophy of mine in more detail. Actually, I'm not alone - there's more than a few "silent minority" guys who have been converted.

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Old 04-18-2003, 03:27 PM   #7 of 80
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At the price levels you're talking about, you owe it to yourself to take a serious look at the Lexicon MC-8. You will not find a more flexible or configurable pre/pro on the market (unless you go for the Lex MC-12 ), and it does everything you could ever want for both HT and music.

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Old 04-18-2003, 06:10 PM   #8 of 80
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The Krell Showcase is a very nice peice and sounds great as so does the Sunfire GT3. I was at the CES show in Vegas and listened to the Sunfire pre/pro and it was very nice. Let say that I had a chance to hear alot of brands that many people have never hear of and stuff that is not easy to find. If you are considering the upper end of the spectrum in HT/Audio. You may want to look at the McIntosh MX-134? If I had the money I would by this one and maybe add a lexicon processor to it? But buy itself it is a awsum pre/pro. I have a Yamaha RV-X995 reciever and I am iching to upgrade it sometime soon. I am looking at Rotel, Sunfire, Adcom, B&K and maybe even the Denon AVR-5803 as a pre/pro? The flexability of this reciever is awsum and I would not have to buy amps right off the bat. But of course it has to be HD compatible, and be 6.1 or 7.1. Adcom made an impressive showing at this years CES show and besides a impressive product line including a up and coming dvd/dvd-a player to be anounced soon. They are shipping there gear in wood crates. I will be buying the Adcom dvd player as soon as it is available, retail $1000. I would just take your favorite material audio and video and buy what you like and what will work best for you .

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Old 04-19-2003, 07:21 AM   #9 of 80
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Thanks everyone for the input. I have a couple of things to clarify. I am into home theater 99% of the time. I rarely listen to music and when I do it is country so the main thing in a pre/pro I am looking for is reliability, upgradeability(if that is a word), sound quality, picture quality and ease of use. Like I said I will not be using this piece for multi room. I really like the B&K amp and the quality of there equipment seems high but I have been reading a lot about the buzz and the reasons etc. I could buy the Reference 50 and then possibly the Sony 999ES DVD. Would I be happy with the Ref. 50? Let me know if any other ideas. I am currently using Def. Tech BP2002TL's for fronts, CLR 2500 for center, BP1 (I believe for rears) with a Def. Tech 15TL+ sub. I have been thinking about upgrading my speakers but I have not heard anything that sounds as good with home theater that does not cost a arm and a leg. Thanks for all your help.

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Old 04-19-2003, 07:25 AM   #10 of 80
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Mike,

Do you own the B&K or something else? How did you like the Krell. Do you think it will hold up? The only thing about the Krell is it is not THX Ultra 2 certified whether that makes a difference or not. Thanks,

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