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Old 04-21-2003, 10:29 AM   #31 of 80
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The absurb thing about that is that you said "all", it certainly isn't "all", in fact it might not even be "majority".

lemme see:
Lexicon - not included in all
Tag McLaren - not included
Rotel - not included
Aragon - not included

And balanced putputs != higher quality, neither does balanced outputs



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Old 04-21-2003, 01:55 PM   #32 of 80
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Vino,
The unbalanced MC-12 is an outstanding performer. The "potential" extra 6dB noise immunity of balanced interconnects is not justifiable in my installation (enclosed equipment rack with short cables).

Ted,
You might look at the Bryston SP-1.7. Very impressive sound for 2-ch and movies. I would have gone this way if I hadn't stumbled into a great deal on the MC-12 (Don't ask... dealer is out of business). The Bryston doesn't have video switching, but this was not a problem for me. My video scaler has plenty of inputs. High-end TVs probably have the same...
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Old 04-21-2003, 02:50 PM   #33 of 80
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You will not find a more flexible or configurable pre/pro on the market


Mike [Reuben] - you said this in reference to the MC-8.

How are you certain of this? Have you compared it to the Anthem AVM20? ... If so, I'd be interested to see exactly what the MC-8 does that the AVM20 can't ...

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Old 04-21-2003, 04:36 PM   #34 of 80
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Does the Mc-8 have the room correction stuff that the Krell has? Last I checked they didn't but feel free to correct me.

Arguing over 'ALL" type statements is just arguing semantics and isn't very fruitful IMHO.

Is the Mc-8 a loaded prepro with tons of features and configurations? Yes. Can it be beat? Sure depending on what criteria you put into which prepro. For some it doesn't beat their Outlaw, for others it does easily.

Balanced connections are a condundrum for me. Having them available certainly doesn't hurt IMHO and the possibility of removing loads of noise in my system with them is certainly intriguing especially at the extra dough but it may not be worth it. I'm sure a Lexicon dealer has both and you could compare them in your own system to find out if that is an issue. For $5k-$6k I'd expect it.
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Old 04-21-2003, 06:38 PM   #35 of 80
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If so, I'd be interested to see exactly what the MC-8 does that the AVM20 can't ...

If one were to do a feature comparison between the two units, I'm sure each would do certain things that the other can't.

But I wasn't offering a feature comparison. I was talking about flexibility and configurability. Undoubtedly there are other processors that are the MC-8's equal in that area (and the AVM20 may well be one of them). But it's hard to imagine one that's more so, what with the MC-8's 13 video inputs, 8 digital inputs, one or two 6-channel analog inputs (at the user's option), the ability to assign any of these in any combination to any one of 8 devices, plus a second zone, and the inclusion of every major home audio format currently available, plus Lexicon's proprietary formats.

But as Shane rightly points out, a lot depends on one's criteria (not to mention one's needs).

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Old 04-21-2003, 10:36 PM   #36 of 80
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How bout the Parasound C2? Anybody know anything about this unit yet? Price? I have not seen much info.


Not much talk about this unit in this thread, but I really think it deserves consideration here. It certainly has mine.

The Parasound C1 and C2 are pretty impressive with their features and specs. The C1 has the 5 inch TFT screen on the front panel. Cool! Retail is $6000.00. It received a completely glowing review in the current issue of Home Theater Magazine.

For $2000.00 less, you can get the C2, which doesn't have the screen, a couple less inputs I think. It has every sound format currently available in the market, including THX Ultra 2 Cinema.

Try this link:


Parasound Halo C2

They don't get much better looking than this either!

Street price appears to be just over $3000.00.




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Old 04-22-2003, 02:11 AM   #37 of 80
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Way back in the dark ages, I was torn between the Anthem and the B&K Ref 30.

I don't know if my experience is still relevant, considering all new products, but the Anthem had the edge when it came to music.

The B&K while not the king of stereo, was IMHO, the king of HT.... which is what this is all about anyway. That's not to say that the B&K was BAD at stereo music...just not as great as the Anthem (I think it was the AVM20...not sure about exact model number)

The best analogy would be that if these were cars..the Anthem would do 0-60 in 3.9 seconds and the B&K in 4.1... if you have ever driven cars this fast you know that the .2 seconds means very little when you are being pushed through the seat back.

When it came to HT, the B&K was far better because it offered more options and, I thought, better performance on multichannel movie sound which for me was the priority.

AS I understand it, Anthem has caught up as far as options go...I do not know if it offers the extensive bass management that B&K does....

Bottom line is to get an in-home demo and listen for yourself in YOUR room with YOUR equipment and then make a choice. I was able to have both the Anthem and the B&K at once and ended up keeping the B&K.



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Old 04-22-2003, 06:36 AM   #38 of 80
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Back in the dark ages the AVM20 wasn't even born yet, I believe you were talking about the original AVM2, which was never really that good. From what I've heard the AVM20 is a huge improvement over it.



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Old 04-22-2003, 06:59 AM   #39 of 80
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Thanks everyone for their replys. I just found out my dealer I deal with just got in the Parasound C2 to determine if he is interested in picking the line back up. I am going today to demo and see what it has to offer. I read the review in Home Theater Mag and they just did a review in the new DVD Etc. Mag about the C2 which also reviewed very well. The Anthem seems to be a nice piece but I do not need all the Bells and Whistles it offers. But I am still up in the air.

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Old 04-22-2003, 08:09 AM   #40 of 80
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IS DVD ETc available @ Barnes & Noble?
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Old 04-22-2003, 10:43 AM   #41 of 80
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my dealer I deal with just got in the Parasound C2 to determine if he is interested in picking the line back up. I am going today to demo and see what it has to offer. I read the review in Home Theater Mag and they just did a review in the new DVD Etc. Mag about the C2 which also reviewed very well. The Anthem seems to be a nice piece but I do not need all the Bells and Whistles it offers.


DVD ETC. gave the Parasound Halo C2 a "97" rating, which is obviously very good.

As far as not needing all the "Bells and whistles" offered by the Anthem, you could say the same about the Halo C2 since it has more than enough bells and whistles itself.

From what I can tell, the Anthem actually retails for about $600.00 less than the Halo C2, but the C2 can be had for much less than its retail price, which is not true for the Anthem. In the end, the price of these two great pre/pro's will be very close (within $100.00).

I need to see/hear the C2 to make my decision final. Looks like I need to head down to The Good Guys.




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