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Old 04-27-2003, 01:46 PM   #31 of 40
Jagan Seshadri
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I have a Yamaha RX-1200 and it is a fantastic receiver. Well-executed design and construction.

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Old 04-27-2003, 11:22 PM   #32 of 40
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One of the reasons I have joined this forum is because of the pleasant, objective attitude of the members here. No Jap bashing or US-Euro only snobbery here.

Having said that, my path to Yamaha products started in the early eighties. I graduated from various so-called esoteric products who will remain nameless for posterity's sake. Can tell you that I lost lots of $$$$ in that phase.

I auditioned Yamaha at a musician friend's house and became an instant convert. I was looking for a system with as much neutral sound as possible. Something which takes in garbage and throws out the same garbage without any modifications or exotic promises. Expressions like punchy and airy make me very nervous.

I have a myriad of Yamaha equipment today. Some of the most under rated Hi-Fi separates like the M series and their newer MX series power amps and the legendary NS-1000x speakers ( one of the flattest speakers ever to be measured ). Very few have had the opportunity to audition these gems. Most relate Yamaha to DSP or motorcycles. Yamaha's ad strategy is partly to be blamed for this too. They have always highlighted their DSP products and nothing else.

The fact that Yamaha still makes great speakers the likes of NS-200/300 or the NS8-HX are one of the least harped fact around. It is a pity that no one gives them even an audition. You see, prejudice and bias of the customers and sales plays a key role.

Now for the quality of Yamaha, my NS-1000x speakers are seventeen years old and so are the M series amp and C series pre amp I bought with them and till today they run like new.

My Yamaha CDX-1050 is eleven years old and still plays till today. I have recently picked up Yamaha's flagship DSP-AZ1 with the recently discontinued ( still available in Japan ) MX-1 class A amp. Needless to say Yamaha quality still impresses me as it did seventeen years back. I went to various shops and auditioned and checked the physical characteristics of the HT amps and can tell you that not only the Yamaha amps weighed heavier ( that too with lesser power ratings ), but featured heavier caps and high grade components. For instance, one of my friends runs a repair shop and according to him, he gets very few complaints on Yamaha and that too minor ones, OTOH, there are numerous complains on the so-called esoteric brands. According to him, even the cheapest of Yamaha components like HT receivers and CD players use Elna and Nishicon caps and heavy duty transformer cores. The trademark Yamaha sounds needs careful speaker matching or else it can sound very harsh and bright. This is where most first time Yamaha auditioners come out with a bad impression.

If you were to weigh a RXV-800 and compare it to similarly priced and powered HT receivers from it's competitors you will notice that the Yamaha weighs significantly more.

Just my thoughts on Yamaha and my request to all of you is to audition Yamaha separates like their CX-1/MX-1 pre-power combo as well as their speakers like the NS-200/300 and NS8-HX and post you reviews and opinions in this forum.
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Old 04-28-2003, 05:05 AM   #33 of 40
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I'm a dyed-in-the-wool Yamaha fan and have been for over ten years. Excellent sound quality, features and exceptional reliability for a great price are why I will probably be sticking with Yamaha (at least until I go the separates route).

I'm contemplating upgrading to a DSP-AZ1 at the moment. I currently own a DSP-A1. Before that I owned a DSP-A3090, and before that an RXV-870. Every one of them worked flawlessly.

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Old 04-28-2003, 07:11 AM   #34 of 40
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Well Adam, even if you were to go into the seperates route, Yamaha has some great stuff for you in that end like the CX-1/MX-1 pre-power amp combo I mentioned. They sound even warmer and sweeter than the amps built into their DSP.
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Old 04-29-2003, 02:33 AM   #35 of 40
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I too have the Yamaha Asian flagship, DSP-AZ1. Also a yamaha fan, I find their built quality surprisingly good from my previous yamaha amps. Having owned their 995, 1200 and now AZ1, they really are a tough bunch to fault.

Pronto fans will squeal with delight in Yamaha's flexibility, esp since Yamaha even uses the Pronto control (rebadged as the RAV2000). The discreet IR codes offer unrivaled flexibility in a full automated system.

Their built quality is incredibly good. The use of top grade capacitors and DACs really make the yamaha stand out from the crowd.

Their DSP modes are not that gimmicky and some are really good. Eg, The Enhanced surrond mode really makes the surround more involving, rather than plain DTS or DD. I do admit Yamaha has spent way too much marketing on their DSP, instead of their other strengths.

Their amp stage is actually quite good too. I parallel my speakers intentionally and yamaha amps (even in the old 995) don't shut-down or distort horribly. Another compeititor's high profile AV amp did shutdown quickly when given the same task. Yammy sounds good and natural to me and my piano teaching partner too.

IMO, yammy has not gone down, but there is always room for improvement!
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Old 04-29-2003, 02:46 AM   #36 of 40
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Like fine wine, it takes time to mature.........try putting a MX-1 in your main section of your AZ-1 and see the beast unleashed.

Are you using rear center speakers, if so, do you find them neccesary?
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Old 04-29-2003, 03:07 AM   #37 of 40
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I use Rotel's 993 power amps to supply all my power amplication needs, thus giving me 6x200W of power per channel. Although its a Class AB amp (I think) I'd say the beast in the AZ1 is already lurking nearby........ I use front effects too, so it can have pretty scary in certain movies.

I use the 6th rear channel, but in a mono 2-speaker fashion. It improves the surround defination very much. Hitting the EX/ES button is enough to hear the diff. I'm a 6.1 convert now, so even 5.1 movies are played in matrix 6.1.
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Old 04-29-2003, 03:28 AM   #38 of 40
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The built in AZ-1 amp is class A and so is the 260wpc MX-1. I haven't heard much justification for the rear center chanel but now that I have it, I am keeping it. I love the remote on the AZ-1, the only feature I would like to see is adjustable LFE out. Kinda hard to control two YST-800 plus a YST 320 rear sub.

What speakers are you using by the way?
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Old 04-30-2003, 04:25 PM   #39 of 40
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I'm running an RX-V496 and gotta admit, I've heard plenty of amps that cost considerably more that didn't sound any better. I think my Yamaha may have been my best HT purchase yet and can't wait to step up to a 6.1 yammy.

If you want a quick and dirty "power" comparision go get a JVC (I had the 5000vbk Pro Logic before my Yamaha) and grab a Yamaha. Try to play a song at the same volume level. With my supposed 100x5 JVC I had to turn the volume to 60 out of 80 (= 3/4'ths power). My Yamaha can put out at the same volume at roughly 1/4 volume.

I know this isn't very scientific, but it impressed me...the ONE or TWO times I turned my RX-V496 up to 1/2 volume I had to stop due to either stuff shaking or SPL induced pain.
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Old 04-30-2003, 10:32 PM   #40 of 40
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Shaun,

What you have realized, I did long time back when I took my $$$$ Krell KSA-150 amp to my friend's house and compared it to his Yamaha MX-1000U. Needless to say it was a lesson and I had to eat the humble pie. Volume for volume, the Yamaha was clearer and sounded more powerful.
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