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Old 11-27-2004, 05:06 PM   #1 of 11
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This year I'm going to present awards to the studios for their support of Widescreen & Original Aspect Ratio on DVD. There are three categories that you may vote for. In your reply to this thread, please cast one and only one vote for each category. You can however vote for the same studio for Studio of the Year and Most Improved Studio of the Year. If you wish, you may provide a sentence or two explaining each of your choices. Please make your decisions based on the output of the studio for the 2004 calendar year. This poll will remain open until Midnight, PST, next Saturday. If there are less than 50 votes at that time, it will remain open until the following Saturday. The Awards will be presented in this thread, and on Widescreen Advocate, on the following Monday. I don't want to bias the results with my own conclusions, so I will cast the last vote, which carry the same weight as all the other votes cast.

CATEGORIES:

Studio of the Year
Most Improved Studio of the Year
Worst Studio of the Year

ELLIGIBLE STUDIOS:

Columbia/Tri-Star
Disney/Buena Vista
Fox
MGM
Paramount
Universal
Warner



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Old 11-27-2004, 07:54 PM   #2 of 11
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Do we vote here? Here's my votes (I'll delete them if we're supposed to vote elsewhere, I looked at the Widescreen Advocate site and didn't see anything.)

Studio Of The Year- Paramount, for to date not releasing a single title as "Formatted to fit your screen", except when including both versions on the same disc or as a separate release (though I must take exception to the "Full Screen Collection" banner on those- again, "Full Screen" is a misleading term, and it might as well be called the "I Hate Movies Collection"!)
Fox would be a runner-up, but they have two titles I'm aware of in pan & scan only- "Digimon", released just a few months after it was in theaters, the other "My Neighbor Totoro" though they at least explained that they didn't have access to a better transfer and wouldn't have the rights to it for much longer anyway.
Just noticed you asked for just the 2004 calendar year so I guess those titles don't count, but I still hold those against them. Big props to Fox for putting out catalog titles at $9.99 list price with new 16x9 transfers, some with pan and scan on the same disc. One demerit however for putting the pan and scan versions on side B (and not even giving side B a label!) on the discs that have both.

Most Improved Studio Of The Year- I'd have to say Warner, since for a while they were putting out some titles only in pan and scan. Most of their new catalog titles are now widescreen ONLY, when they used to include both widescreen and pan and scan together. ("Strange Brew" and "One Crazy Summer" are single-side, single-layer so a pan&scan version would have easily fit on those, but they decided not to include one. Hopefully "market research" showed no interest.) However a handful of titles have still gone out only in pan & scan this year, like "Rainbow Brite and the Star Stealer".
Added- they also put out "Grind", a new movie, only in pan & scan. While it's probably not a great work of art, all movies deserve to be shown properly, and had they still been making laserdiscs it probably would have been widescreen on that format. Still I would say they are overall most improved. Universal's made a handful of improvements but also some disimprovements.

Worst Studio Of The Year- Easily Columbia/Tristar, for not only putting out new titles only in pan and scan, but RE-ISSUING several titles that had both versions with ONLY the pan and scan versions! They have also issued more brand-new titles in pan & scan format only than any other studio (with the possible exception of Warner in the first couple years of the format)- word is "Baby Geniuses II" will only be pan & scan. They were doing a pretty good job at the start of the format either including both versions on the same disc or widescreen only, I would love to hear the story of what happened over there. Their recent actions have caused me to boycott Sony electronics, since apparently they feel it's OK to play pan & scan movies on them. (Would you buy a Madacy-branded big screen TV?)
Yes, they still put out some good releases, but dropping existing widescreen transfers is totally unforgivable, and they're certainly not the company they were a few years ago.



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Old 11-27-2004, 08:07 PM   #3 of 11
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Yes, the voting takes place in this thread.



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Old 11-27-2004, 08:44 PM   #4 of 11
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Studio of the Year - FOX

Most Improved Studio of the Year - Warner Bros.

Worst Studio of the Year - Columbia TriStar
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Old 11-27-2004, 10:03 PM   #5 of 11
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Studio of the Year: Warner

Mainly because of their excellent support of OAR in 2004. Also, this year, the first-ever OAR home video releases of Around the World in 80 Days and The Wrong Man occured. Also, the SE's of Blazing Saddles and The Iron Giant dropped the pan & scan flip-sides that were on the original DVD's. The "That's Entertainment!" films featured both 4x3 and 16x9 transfers, which allowed those with both monitor setups to see the films in the best way possible. Both the CinemaScope and flat versions were provided on the Seven Brides for Seven Brothers SE, both 16x9.

More importantly, they do dual releases when they do P&S DVD's. So, no one is let down with the release of Scooby Doo 2 (even if they're let down with the actual movie ) They're also not doing what Columbia is doing: taking the dual-sided DVD's and re-releasing them with only the P&S version for retailers like Wal-Mart. On the Tom & Jerry 2-disc set, despite problems with other cartoons, they created brand new 16x9 transfers of the 3 CinemaScope cartoons.

Even above that, they're one studio that you simply can rely on OAR to be on DVD. There's none of the guesswork that people put up with for Universal, Columbia, or MGM.


I would like to mention that Fox and Paramount have supported OAR since day one, though. They've been a great help to making widescreen popular.

Most improved: MGM (barely)

Mainly because they cancelled the Techniscope (2.35:1) film, Charly from their schedule. This is part of the ABC Films licensed package from Disney. The DVD was to be released in October with a pan & scan transfer and no extras. Thanks to the efforts of Chris Blig and possibly Cliff Robertson (who was shown the petition and was alerted), there is no P&S DVD of the film in stores. However, with MGM to be with Columbia, let's hope it's not brought out again only to be unchanged. MGM is capable of great work!

Worst studio: Columbia

I think everyone else has been perfectly clear on why Columbia is being downright insane with their product. Instead of repeating, I'm just going to agree.




Tell The Weinstein Company to release Richard Williams' animated masterpiece The Thief and the Cobbler on DVD in Panavision widescreen and uncut! See and hear what you're missing from their Bitsy Award winner of Worst Standard Edition DVD of 2006 on YouTube!
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Old 11-27-2004, 10:29 PM   #6 of 11
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Studio of the Year: Warner
Most Improved: MGM (I guess, but this is a tough one to pick)
Worst Studio: Columbia Tri-Star

Rankings, Best to Worst:

1. Warner
2. Fox
3. Paramount
4. Disney/Buena Vista
5. (tie) MGM, Universal
6. --
7. Columbia Tri-Star
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Old 11-27-2004, 10:49 PM   #7 of 11
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I'd go with Paramount as number one, as, as far as I know, they have never pulled any MAR only crap. Fox would be next by a hair. WB is good but don't forget about Police Academy 4 and 5 and also Grind which were released MAR. So they take a hit this year.

I'll actually go with Disney as most improved. I think they have been pretty good lately. They have released a lot of Family Friendly titles in Widescreen that they could have easilly released MAR. Even when Darby O'Gill was released in 1.33:1 they actually gave an explanation of why in the liner notes of the DVD. Don't forget that they also did Brother Bear in its true, A.R. even with the correct shifts that the film presented

For worst....Gee, I wonder... Begins with a "C" ends in an "R" and has a "olumbia Tri-Sta" in the middle.
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Old 11-28-2004, 12:03 AM   #8 of 11
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Hmmm guess everyone forgot about Warners handling of Kung Fu Season One...



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Old 11-28-2004, 12:04 AM   #9 of 11
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Studio Of The Year - Paramount
Most Improved Studio Of The Year - Warner
Worst Studio Of The Year - Columbia/Tristar



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