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Old 10-08-2003, 04:27 AM   #1 of 37
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The other night I watched my new DVD of Enigma - a truly brilliant film. While looking up the director's bio I realized he also directed the stinkfest The World Is Not Enough. I was shocked, to put it mildly. No doubt I underestimated the importance of other factors (writer/producer/editor/cast/etc).

So can you name two films, one you loved, one you hated from the same director?

(Here's an extra one from me: I adored Anthony Minghella's The English Patient, but utterly loathed The Talented Mr Ripley.)



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Old 10-08-2003, 06:45 AM   #2 of 37
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This is easy, and I could probably do it for many directors, but the obvious one is Ingmar Bergman.

The Seventh Seal is a truly great film.

Cries & Whispers is my most despised film of all time.



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Old 10-08-2003, 08:54 AM   #3 of 37
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What George said on being able to do it for a great many directors. Jean Cocteau comes immediately to mind with:

Beauty and the Beast, which I consider a magical film—great from almost every perspective and

The Blood of a Poet, which may be important as a piece of surrealism, but is so incredibly amateurish that it belongs in the dreaded ‘student film’ category. Plus I consider parts pretentious in the extreme.



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Old 10-08-2003, 09:55 AM   #4 of 37
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Cries & Whispers is my most despised film of all time.


Time and time again, I've seen you proclaim a deep hatred for this movie. I can understand not liking it, but I can't understand why someone would hate it with so much vitriol. What's the deal, George? Isn't something like Airheads or Battlefield Earth or Biodome more deserving?
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Old 10-08-2003, 10:23 AM   #5 of 37
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Lew beat me to it. In the spirit of the new Italian poll I'd say Antonioni:

L'Avventura - One of the best Italian films ever.
Zabriskie Point- IMO, frivolous and a snoozer.

You could do this all day. Almodovar, Woody Allen, Speilberg anyone?



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Old 10-08-2003, 10:55 AM   #6 of 37
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I'm hardpressed to come up with anything. If I'm a fan of a directors work, they just don't make movies that I hate. I guess I could go with Woody Allen or DePalma, but there's usually a few times I'll laugh even in the Allen movies I don't care for and Mission to Mars is terrible, but I can't say I hated it.

I guess the best I can do (and keeping in the Italian spirit):

Giuseppe Tornatore
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Old 10-08-2003, 11:20 AM   #7 of 37
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Well Martin, it's hard to explain because it's not so much an objective analysis as it is an overall impression. Let's just say that when I finish watching a film, I'm either pleased, unimpressed/indifferent, or irritated. It's hard to say, in most cases, why I'm irritated. For a film like Do the Right Thing, it's easy to say, it's because I view the film as promoting racism.

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For Cries & Whispers, I can only say that the characters, the story, the cheap symbolism of the color schema, they all just irritated the hell out of me. I saw a film that just had a bunch of bitchy sisters hating each other, I guess due to something when they were children, though it was never explained to my satisfaction. Why did these sisters do what they did to themselves and each other? I don't know, and the film didn't make me care. I felt like I lived next door to these psycho bitches and I just wanted to move away and not have to deal with them.

Similarly, the characters in Jules & Jim all irritated the hell out of me. Maybe it's that I just can't relate to their bizarre behavior. I don't know. Maybe it's some deep-rooted psychological problem in me. I don't know.


Let's just say that I feel the same way after viewing Cries & Whispers that Brook feels when he hears me talk about it. Brook can't help feeling irritated by my opinions anymore than I can help feeling irritated by the film.



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Old 10-08-2003, 11:35 AM   #8 of 37
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David Fincher...

Loved: Seven.
Hated: Alien 3.



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Old 10-08-2003, 11:44 AM   #9 of 37
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