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01-27-2008, 06:41 PM
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Ice Festival
Here are some photos I took this weekend at the local ice carving festival in our home town. I've started playing around with raw files this winter, and I'm still getting the hang of the conversion process. Since there was a lot of snow (meaning very bright) and it was crowded, I adjusted the exposures after the fact. I've been using Adobe Camera Raw and Photoshop Elements. Also, this was my first chance to use my Christmas present -- a Canon EF 70-200 L f/4 IS lens. The first half of the photos were with this lens, before I switched back to my Canon EF-S 17-55 f/2.8 IS lens (the 70-200 was too tight for the subject matter).
I would be interested in any constructive criticism on my raw conversion and Photoshop technique. I mostly adjusted exposure, fill lighting, black level, color saturation and sharpness, usually trying to use all settings in moderation.
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01-28-2008, 12:24 AM
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Re: Ice Festival
I talked to my brother by phone yesterday and he told me about attending this. Unfortunately, he's not a digital guy, so I had to make do with his descriptions.
As for your photos, I would say that you achieved your goal in using moderation. They look terrific, very natural. Good color, despite being overcast.
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01-28-2008, 07:20 AM
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Re: Ice Festival
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I talked to my brother by phone yesterday and he told me about attending this. Unfortunately, he's not a digital guy, so I had to make do with his descriptions.
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It's always a fun event, but very crowded during the day. In past years, we have walked around late at night when there very few people. However, I wanted to take some photos, so we fought the large daytime crowd.
Thanks for the nice comments, Don.
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01-28-2008, 01:35 PM
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Re: Ice Festival
Beautiful pictures of some great work. It think it would be fun just to go even though it is usually crowded.
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01-30-2008, 12:21 PM
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Re: Ice Festival
Love the Mini-Caribou! Would definitly be an interesting subject if you could isolate him from the rest of the chaos going on around it. If I could offer a bit of creative criticism I'd note that many of these seem to have trouble isolating their subject, and when the subjects are isolated they seem to have parts randomly (ie rather than intentionally or artistically) cut off. Edit: Ooops sorry didnt realize there were multiple pages (user error on my part!), so that isolation comment is mostly directed at the shots on page 1, but less so on other pages. Still, I'm not afraid to use the crop tool tho I know some are religious about presenting things 'as shot'. If that's your philosophy I'd try to isolate in camera a bit more, as the saying goes 'you can never get TOO close!'.
Thanks for sharing them tho, especially since it got me off my butt to check out the new SmugMug UI, which does seem kinda cool!
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Buncha savages in this town.....
I ran outta gas! I had a flat tire! I didn't have enough money for cab fare! My tux didn't come back from the cleaners! An old friend came in from outta town! Someone stole my car! There was an earthquake! A terrible flood! Locusts!! It wasn't my fault I swear to God!!!
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01-30-2008, 12:43 PM
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Re: Ice Festival
Looks like a cool event. Good job on the exposure and processing with all that white and glassy subject matter.
There were probably some limits on physical proximity to the artists, but don't be afraid to push the envelope in getting close to the subject. This is not in my nature to do this - I hate feeling like I'm intruding on someone or even being "that guy with the camera." But shots from a wider angle and closer proximity can produce a psychological intimacy that you don't get with a telephoto, which I think is important for this particular subject matter. Also experiment with the "Z" axis for greater depth and dynamic quality in the composition.
Anyone who isn't confused really doesn't understand the situation. - Edward R. Murrow
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01-30-2008, 06:19 PM
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Re: Ice Festival
Scott,
Looks like a fun event. Good to see these.
Besides what others have mentioned, I would suggest trying some positive exposure comp during the shoot since there is so much white in most scenes. I probably would've gone for +1EV (or maybe more) in most instances myself. There really is no substitute for getting the exposure right during the shoot. You can only do so much w/ adjusting/processing the RAW files (before the image starts to suffer).
For RAW, I mainly just use Nikon's own software -- the older Nikon Capture that is -- since I shoot Nikon. I don't like Adobe's RAW converter though maybe the latest one works much better than before (for Nikon files anyway). I do use Photoshop CS somewhat for whatever Nikon Capture doesn't do.
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01-31-2008, 07:06 AM
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Re: Ice Festival
Thanks for the suggestions everyone. I know the composition on many of the photos are not great, but with the crowds and carving areas being roped off, I was limited regarding where I could shoot. I started with my 70-200mm lens to try to get some close-up shots, but the lens was too long for most opportunities, so I switched to my 17-55mm lens. With the crowds, changing between lenses often wasn't a good idea. I was focusing more on getting the exposure and colors looking good, and didn't worry about cropping for composition in post-processing.
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Besides what others have mentioned, I would suggest trying some positive exposure comp during the shoot since there is so much white in most scenes. I probably would've gone for +1EV (or maybe more) in most instances myself. There really is no substitute for getting the exposure right during the shoot. You can only do so much w/ adjusting/processing the RAW files (before the image starts to suffer).
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This is definitely something I should have done. In post-processing, I ended up adjusting exposure anywhere from +.25 to +2EV. Shooting in snowy conditions is something I'm still getting used to and need more practice with.
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For RAW, I mainly just use Nikon's own software -- the older Nikon Capture that is -- since I shoot Nikon. I don't like Adobe's RAW converter though maybe the latest one works much better than before (for Nikon files anyway). I do use Photoshop CS somewhat for whatever Nikon Capture doesn't do.
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I've been trying both Adobe Camera Raw (via Photoshop Elements 6) and Canon's Digital Photo Professional for raw conversions. There are things I like and dislike about each. Adobe's color clarity slider works really well, and Canon is easier for adjusting white balance and batch processing.
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01-31-2008, 09:43 AM
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Re: Ice Festival
Give Lightroom a shot!
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Buncha savages in this town.....
I ran outta gas! I had a flat tire! I didn't have enough money for cab fare! My tux didn't come back from the cleaners! An old friend came in from outta town! Someone stole my car! There was an earthquake! A terrible flood! Locusts!! It wasn't my fault I swear to God!!!
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