Canon SD600? - Page 3

Mary M S · 01-04-2007, 09:55 AM

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I don't see many situations like that for me

....just realized, do not mean to be dishing the SD800 during comparisons! These tiny P&S’s with fixed lens and tradeoffs to all DSLR’s are almost schizoid across the categories when evaluating performance across the spectrum for any one model. They all have weaknesses. My usage would be different from yours with that 50% avec flash situation.

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available in March

Are you a sadist,

there seems to be issue with the F31 including a delay of 1-2 wks shipping evidently just on the cusp of on-hand stock status.
MARCH! Just think what fall 2007 will bring!

If I miss this trip, one I really wished him to have it for, it would give me a few more weeks. Departure was just pushed back a few days, if I could find in-stock I have at least the weekend for checking models.

Scott Merryfield · 01-04-2007, 02:22 PM

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These tiny P&S’s with fixed lens and tradeoffs to all DSLR’s are almost schizoid across the categories when evaluating performance across the spectrum for any one model.

Exactly, and this is why I went back to a SLR once quality digital versions became affordable for me. For the point & shoots, unfortunately I think you have to prioritize your requirements, pick the camera that does the top one or two well, and live with the limitations of the other features.

Mary M S · 01-04-2007, 05:42 PM

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I went back to a SLR once quality digital versions became affordable

...that is what burns me, my last bout of heavy shooting was on my aging Cannon SLR 630, can’t stand spending what I spent for that on a P&S! A shame my husband does not have more pocket space.

Shootout. I’ve just over nighted the F30, went for it when I noted FaceR is slowing the F31 down a bit, and the noise levels on the 31 are a tad higher. The 50 dollar difference helps make up for the expedited shipping.
Cannot find either the 31 or 30 locally.

Will see what I see when it arrives tomorrow.

HienN · 01-04-2007, 11:53 PM

Mary, I wasn't being defensive. I too wish the SD800 was better in faible eclairage, but nothing is perfect. But it is so slim though

Speaking of which, the new Fuji F40fd is even slimmer than the Canon, at merely 23 mm or 0.9 inch thick. Surprisingly the reaction by Fuji camera fans over the dpreview forum is mostly negative. Most people place it below the F31fd in terms of image performance, so it does not look like you are missing anything.

Can't wait to see the results of your shoot-out tomorrow. Be sure you have a lot of calibrated candles, and a Barbie doll or two.

Mary M S · 01-05-2007, 12:25 AM

Hien,

I did not read defensive at all. In fact I so much appreciate all your help.
It just suddenly occurred to me...you own the model..I hoped [i] wasn’t being rude.

Be nice if it really makes it! This stuff - drives me crazy; the research and worrying over a final choice....but I love the doing of it, all at the same time.

Not a Barbie sort of house, all guys but for lonesome outnumbered me.

Man-Fai Wong · 01-05-2007, 04:27 AM

Actually, no camera is perfect per se when it comes to what the human heart desires.

You can always find some perceived flaw or something you might like done better in any camera once you've spent enough time w/ it.

If you go for an entry level or prosumer DSLR body, you'll eventually find plenty more things you'd want improved or added. You'll want something easier to lug around. You'll develop lens lust for a wide variety of lenses w/ some being too hefty to lug around, some lacking IS, some not ideal for your walkaround needs, some not bright enough, some w/ no zooming at all, etc, etc. You'll want a nice flash bracket and whatever related gadgets to go w/ that big speedlight that you'll eventually want. You'll decide model A is faster, more accurate, more solid, etc. or model B makes full use of 35mm SLR lenses or model C offers higher resolution, or brand X offers better high ISO performance today or brand Y's ergonomics and feature set are much more desirable for you or brand Z's dynamic range and/or subtle tonal gradations and/or WB capability (including WB pre-conditioning for more efficient use of dynamic range) impress you more. And the list goes on and on and on until you decide, oh no, there's also the possibility of medium format digital backs!! And then, don't forget about postprocessing(!!) and your choice of relevant software tools.

At the end of the day, choosing the right tool for the right job specifically for you is still what matters most. Figure out what you really need (or want most) for the forseeable future and go w/ what serves *you* best w/out necessarily catering to your every last desire. But you probably know all that already though you may be tempted to think otherwise from time to time.

Happy comparison shopping!

_Man_

Mary M S · 01-05-2007, 07:14 AM

And what’s wrong

with manufacture’s catering to my every last desire! And I have lusted after ‘L’ lens from Cannon.

I found quickly from Hien’s great Face-to-Face link, assuming no retouching or deliberate manipulation that...

I want a point and shoot with the Cannon SD800 color (under no-flash conditions), the Lumix line glass for its dynamic range and ‘pop’, blended with the Fuji’s (reported) low light capabilities and extremely low noise levels, and battery life.
.50 depth with rubber bumpers so you can throw it on the ground when you miss that shot (sit on it, daily) and the secure feel of an SLR grip.
oh ..oh...oh.... 28mm out to 300, - the limit I can successfully hand hold – without shake.

Think they could do that for me?

Edit add: Just found this.
Sorry could not sort how to find a direct address for it, scroll half down this blog page to the youtube link, approx. 8 min.
Comparison between Sony DSC-N2/Cannon SD 900/Fuji F31fd.
No hard data to it, just real world goofing around under very difficult night/action conditions, by some Brit.

Scott Merryfield · 01-05-2007, 12:28 PM

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You'll develop lens lust for a wide variety of lenses w/ some being too hefty to lug around, some lacking IS, some not ideal for your walkaround needs, some not bright enough, some w/ no zooming at all, etc, etc.

This one describes me to a tee.

HienN · 01-05-2007, 11:24 PM

Mary, I hope you are busy writing your photo shoot-out report, or still out there in the dark taking pictures. So which camera is it going to be, inquiring minds want to know.

Mary M S · 01-06-2007, 12:29 PM

Hien,
I missed the window Thurs, for one-day ship, which put it here (sat) today. I had time to charge it about ¾, (hate to do that to new battery) without even powering it up myself, sent it out the door to the airport. They are prepping planes for a trip. Hus