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Old 08-20-2002, 10:54 PM   #1 of 1248
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Austin DIY HT Projects


It seems that the last few meets have been largely focused on DIY HT projects (like speaker building, acoustical absorption panels, screens, etc), and it sounds like there are many other DIY projects that members are either working on or have an interest in, so I thought this thread (much like the Austin Movie Night! thread is dealing with members who want to get together to share their HT rooms, I thought this thread might be a great place for fellow members to not only share DIY project ideas and implementations, but to also arrange group gatherings where by we all help a member with a particular project. Not only is this a great way to help our friends, but it is also a great learning opportunity for those thinking about similar DIY projects for their own systems.

I thought the best way to get the ball rolling is for those with DIY projects, and those planning on DIY projects to list them and see who might be interested in either offering advice, lending a hand, or just want to watch, listen and learn.

Right off the top of my head I know Jonathan is in the middle of some big HT projects (Screens, CRT Calibration, HTPC). Colin is planning on doing a SMART II calibration/modifications to his 10HT, and making a PLAS-TEX screen frame. Fredrick has a huge project in front of him with the conversion of his garage into an HT room.

As for the DIY stuff in my HT system, her are some of the past, present and future DIY projects I have going on:

SCREEN:
With the help of Hank and his son I made a PLAS-TEX screen (anyone considering this option should feel free to ask me any questions you might have as well as possibly come by and test it out with your own projector to see if you like the results).

4-WAY MASKING SYSTEM:
I am in the process of making a 4-way masking system with the help from my wife, and will gladly share our experience with anyone interested.

SCREEN MOVIE CURTAINS:
My wife is also working on a design for curtains to go across the entire screen, and a valance to cover all the masking gear.

BLACKOUT SHADES:
My wife is also making pull down blackout shades for the windows.

EQUIPMENT RACK/HT STORAGE:
I made a ventilated equipment rack out of Elf System components and I am currently redesigning the shelving next to the equipment, and looking at building a sliding door for an enclosure.

DVD/CD/LP STORAGE SHELVES:
I have several hundred DVDs, CDs, and LPs and was having trouble finding an adequate way to store them. Thanks to a link sent to me by Hank, I found a solution for my DVDs, and now I am trying to find a solution for cabinets to store my LPs and other Misc. HT gear.

POWER OUTLET FOR CEILING MOUNTED PROJECTOR:
I made myself a power outlet and did all the wiring for it, and anyone needing assistance in that, feel free to email me.

VIDEO CABLE:
Hank was kind enough to make me some superb component cable for which I look forward to helping him make cable in the future. Unfortunately I missed all of the process due to a very distracting child, but hope to get another chance soon. We also ran the wire from the ceiling mounted projector through the attic to the equipment rack. If you plan on pulling your own wire in an attic - watch out fore those 3" roofing nails!

RECESSED ROPE LIGHTING:
This is a project that I would gladly accept advice and assistance. I think I have a good idea how to do this, but I'm not exactly sure I am on the right track. Basically I would like to build a square boarder shelf around the walls of my recessed ceiling and place a long run of rope light inside it such that it would illuminate the ceiling but remain out of sight from every position in the room.

MARQUEE POSTER FRAMING:
I have several marquee movie posters (posters that are designed to be illuminated from behind). I have already had them framed between two panes of glass and in a deep black shadow box, but I am not happy with the result. I would like to have something that weighs less and is less reflective (Plexiglas instead of glass - frosted on the backside for diffusion the light source), and a box that can easily be opened up such that the posters can be changed out on occasions. Also, I want to use coiled rope light for illumination as it can be connected to a dimmer for light control. Any suggestions/assistance would be greatly appreciated.

HTPC:
Well, I have no immediate plans for an HTPC in my system, but I am interested in helping others put HTPCs together in hopes that should I ever want to add an HTPC, I will have enough experience to make it a more pleasant adventure.

Well that about does it for me.

I think this thread could become a great asset for all of us, so lets see how it progresses.
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Old 08-20-2002, 11:56 PM   #2 of 1248
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Excellent idea! I'll follow up.

Recent DIY Projects:
  • A five channel surround sound speaker system (of my own design)
  • A pair of subwoofers based on the Adire Tempest 15" driver
  • DIY blackout cloth screen and grey screen experimentation

Future DIY Projects:
  • More DIY screen experimentation
  • DIY anamorphic lens building
  • Possible wacky speaker designs (horn loaded line sources or something odd like that )

Speaker building got kind of boring for me, and most of my interest lies with video these days. But I may get back into speakerbuilding at some point when I have more difficult projects in mind.




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Old 08-21-2002, 06:46 AM   #3 of 1248
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Nils: Good idea, I just hope that three Austin threads aren't too many (Movie Nights, D-I-Y and the almost ever-present Next Austin Meet thread). How about combining the latter two into one: Austin HT Forum? Or maybe combine all three, wherein anything HT of interest to Austinites could be discussed, whether it be the next meet, the next movie night or members' ongoing projects? Might be easier to manage/access and posting news of importance wouldn't be missed by someone who might only frequent one of the separate threads. Just a thought. Could we get some discussion going, everyone?

Component video cable: yes that was a fairly long run and the highlight of the installation was my son Sean's discovery of the roofing nail with his head. Never heard an expletive penetrate a ceiling with such revealing clarity and presence of soundstage! The bill is on the way.
Rope light: I love that stuff! I installed some under the front edge of my deck just outside my kitchen. Nice glow and no direct light in your eyes when you're on the deck at night. Have you found wide enough crown molding yet?
Lighted poster frame: as you know, I've got a frame done and plan to get the Plexiglas you mentioned - just need to design an easy access method, but I'm diverted now by:
Next prototype of small full-range driver BoseBuster - just received shipment of 10 drivers.
CarverCrusher small cube subwoofer prototyping with new on the market 8" subwoofer drivers with 12mm Xmax.
Equipment rack: I've got the plywood sides with molding installed and stained rosewood. This is a nice "industrial" rack that now looks good enough to sit in an HT room. New D-I-Y interconnects and HF Soundwerks Snake Oil power cords being installed along with a new Brick Wall surge protector/filter.
Bartered a deal last night: the kid who does my yard wants some "real" speakers, so for 5 lawn mowings, he'll get his bookshelf speakers.
And of course time out for beer and tequila.
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Old 08-21-2002, 08:29 AM   #4 of 1248
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The multitude of threads has it's benefits as well as drawbacks. But the good thing is, I'm planning a DIY project of my own and would really appreciate some help or advice.

I have a dedicated listening room in my apartment (audio only) that's smallish (11 x 14) and way too bright. I want to build some acoustic absorption panels. I'm thinking 3 feet wide and 8 feet tall for the front and side walls. Unfortunately, I missed the meet that focused on these although I've obtained some good plans from some other sites.

An extra hand or two would be a great, especially since doing anything the first time is laborious. When I swapped out the binding posts on my monoblocks, it took 5 hours to do the first one and 5 minutes to do the second one... You know how it is .

I was thinking about doing it this Saturday but I wouldn't mind waiting an extra week.


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Old 08-21-2002, 09:03 AM   #5 of 1248
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I don't mind the seperate threads, but we might want to post in the DIY section that there is an on-going thread here about DIY meets.

Right now I am in the wait and learn mode as I am not ready to tackle the garage yet. I have a good idea of what I want to do but there are still a few obstacles in the way that need to be ironed out before I start putting up walls. I have a couple of different ways I can do the room and have not decided which would be best for me.

So, I offer up my services to any others that are doing any sort of A/V DIY projects as this will also give me a way to learn from others. Then I will feel more comfortable when I do my own HT room.

Other than that, I don't really have any DIY projects in the wings except I may try to do a masking system on my Sony 36" TV.

One last thing. Colin has a list of emails of eveyone in our area. When we do another DIY mini-meet, how about sending out a notice to everyone and have those that want to attend RSVP? That way no one can say they didn't know and miss one of these very informative meets. Not to mention the lost manual labor.



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Old 08-22-2002, 07:15 AM   #6 of 1248
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Frederick, study up on acoustic treatments and the D-I-Y projects on the net. I've printed out a couple. Ask Jonathan's advice - he is of the school that room treatment is as important as speaker design/selection/placement.

I would vote for the next D-I-Y meet to be another acoustic treatment session. Wall panels: maybe different fiberglas -I've read that some of the rigid stuff may be too rigid.
Corner bass traps: either cylidrical like most of the D-I-Y's on the 'net, or maybe some of Jonathan's idea of triangular configuration. Maybe diffusers also - more complex than absorbers, but just a thought.

Construction takes time and you can't have a two-hour session that includes instruction and also build enough for everyone. Maybe those with specific "problems" to address can do investigating and have a good idea of what they need and the committment to buy materials and build at the meet.

Or, maybe D-I-Y something different: how 'bout speaker stands? Hollow main post/tube for filling with sand/lead shot.
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Old 08-22-2002, 02:42 PM   #7 of 1248
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I'll be building a sealed shiva sonotube sub in the next 1 or 2 months, and would absolutely LOVE to see/hear similar subs first. Construction pointers, "where did you get your sonotube", design ideas, and related shop talk. Mark Hayenga pointed me to the "local meets" forum for just this reason... apparently he's built 4 shivas and two tempests. Wow!
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Old 08-22-2002, 05:38 PM   #8 of 1248
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I need to put in the time and get my Plas-Tex screen built. Here is what I plan to do, interspersed with questions about just HOW I am going to accomplish this...

I have two 5' x 10' sheets of Plas-Tex (just in case I screw up on the first one). From that, I intend to make a 16:9 format screen with viewable area dimensions of 96"x54" (110").

The border to the screen will be 3" wide fluted moldings (see http://www.houseoffara.com/products/prod-mflmould.asp for illustration), with 3.25" rosettes in the corners (see http://www.houseoffara.com/products/...#RosettaBlocks). (Nils: Much like the casings surrounding the inside of your front door.)

These moldings look good and do not require mitering at the corners (good for lousy DIYers like me).

I intend to paint the moldings/rosettes black.

As I see it, I need a 102"x60" area of backing material. Since MDF is typically sold in 4'x8' sheets, this will not work unless I can get a 5'x10' sheet of MDF.

Are there other (preferably LIGHTER) backing materials I could use?

Then I intend to contact-cement a 102"x60" section of Plas-Tex to the backing material, then attach the decorative moldings on the front side of the screen.

Any suggestions about mounting hardware to put on the back of the screen assembly? Something this heavy certainly would need to be attached to studs when hung on the wall.
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Old 08-22-2002, 09:54 PM   #9 of 1248
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Are there other (preferably LIGHTER) backing materials I could use?


Pegboard would be lighter and easier to work with. I don't know if you can get it in a 5 x 10 sheet, though.


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