[Steve Stogel]

Hold a spot for me, and I'm sure that Toddles wants a spot at the table, too. Gotta run the bambino by the doc's office, so I've got to go, but I'll see you guys soon.

Steve

[Nils Luehrmann]

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instead of resetting the projector lamp timer (shame on you, Nils)

:b

I know, I know. In fact I still have that old projector. I have been holding on to it as it was one of the first generation DLP projectors, but maybe I should use it as a reminder of what happens when you don't change the bulb.

Now to be fair, I do know of several fellow projector owners who have had their bulbs blow-up inside their projectors without any ill effects - then again, maybe I'm just trying to justify a poor decision.

[Gomez]

Hank,

Thanks for the info, I would be interested in playing as well. I just got my new chips yesterday, got a 600 count of chips w/ a 500 count case. Let me know and I can bring them. I'm used to $10 - $20 buy ins so $5 is perfect.

Thx!

[Nils Luehrmann]

Gomez,

The reason the $5 buy-ins have worked well for our group is that we also play no-limit hold-em so with a low buy-in it makes it easy for someone on the short end of an All In showdown to buy back in and continue playing. It is quite common to see several re-buys during the night - and yet with a low buy-in no one goes home penniless.

Also regardless of the buy-in amount, every one gets $500 in chips. This helps avoid the problems associated with nickel-dime-quarter bets.

[Hank Frankenberg]

Jonathan, BTW, I noticed your "dig" a few posts back - it just highlights the fact that you once again missed my dry humor:p)

Latest poker count:
Bogey
Wild Man
Colton
Tubes
Steve
Toddles
Possible: Big Dog (aka Kaboom!)

room for one, possibly two more

[John Prator]

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But in a totally light controlled room I would probably go with a only a modest gain screen - 1.5 at the most. Too much gain can really cause you to squint in bright scenes, especially in transition scenes from dark to light. You're going with quite a large screen, so you should probably figure out the approximate foot lamberts given the actual lumens, screen gain, and area of the screen (I'm sure there are several folks here who can do it for you once we know the details of your install). Count on the bulb losing up to 50% of its brightness over its life.

[Gomez]

I'm all in!

[Steve Stogel]

I think you're looking at 69.4444444444444 foot lamberts, John. IIRC, the calculation is ANSI lumens times screen gain divided by square feet. So, if that 1000 is ANSI, you're looking at just a skosh under 70 foot lamberts. Better block out all ambient light...NOT!!!

I've got a CRT, so these numbers are kind of Greek to me. My PJ (Marquee 8000) would be, from estimates I've seen, about 220 ANSI lumens. My screen (Carada) is a 1.4 gain and is 83.7" x 47.1". So my foot lamberts, assuming those numbers are all correct, is right around 11.25. I've seen some that claim the Carada is closer to a 1.0 than a 1.4 gain, and if that's the case, then I'm looking at closer to 8 foot lamberts.

I can say that I think, in a completely darkened room, the picture is very nice. I can also flip on quite a few lights and still have a watchable image (something not even considered with my Sony 1251).

Back on topic...about 70 fL. Should be plenty bright. With that PJ, though, even at that size, I may consider something in the 1.5 range. That would still give you 41+ fL, and I think that would also be plenty bright enough and save you a ton of cash. My $0.02.

Steve

P.S. There probably is (I know there is on the Sharp 12K PJ) a setting on the BenQ where it closes the iris and gives you much better contrast ratios but less light output (which is what makes CRTer types agree that DPL has just about caught up to good 8" EM CRTs). You might want to find out what the ANSI rating is in that mode, as that will likely be the most pleasing mode when light is totally controlled and you're watching DVDs.

[Nils Luehrmann]

For my $0.02 I'll say that I've seen a +/-100fl set-up that looked absolutely stunning - no hot-spotting, didn't crush whites, and in a completely light free room did not cause me any discomfort while running through countless test patterns and video samples for over an hour. The screen was a prototype that has not yet made it to production, and this was over a year ago - so I have no idea what is holding this product back.

More realistically though, there are a lot of veterans on AVS who have +50fl set-ups and refuse to consider anything less.

Unfortunately the screens and projectors that are available in today's market that can produce that kind of FL on a 110" screen also come with some significant disadvantages. Such as; poor shadow detail; crushed whites; hot spotting; poor off axis viewing; screen durability; expensive; pricey bulbs; etc.

However the 100fl set-up I saw was so impressive that I wouldn't have hesitated on acquiring it if it had been offered to me!

My ideal set-up though would be one where the projector's lumens could be controlled incrementally like Projectiondesign's Action Model One which can be adjusted at anytime from anywhere between 600-1200 lumens. Although, I'd like to have a projector that goes from about 1000 to a max of 2000 lumens. This way, when I want to use the theater for watching sports I can turn up all the lights and still have nearly an RPTV like image.

Oh well, I can dream can't I?

[Greg Risley]

Hey Hank.
Did you get the email I sent you a couple weeks ago, about cables?
Greg