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Old 07-24-2007, 03:50 PM   #181 of 194
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Re: The Eternal Beatles Discussion Thread


I know this is a "music area" thread, but this seems to be the only current Beatles thread, so I will ask my question here:

On the DVD "Anthology," the scene just before All Together Now starts, where Lennon (with his three lads) is looking through a telescope, and is pretending to be terrified because he sees the Blue Meanies. His mates ask, "what can we do?" Lennon says, "the only thing we can do. Sing!"

What film is that clip originally from? Yellow Submarine was a cartoon, so it couldn't be from that.



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Old 07-25-2007, 02:41 PM   #182 of 194
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Actually, it is from Yellow Submarine, at the very end of the movie.


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Old 07-31-2007, 10:56 AM   #183 of 194
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it seems funny to me that, despite all the problems and disagreements the band members had with one another, they still held onto the promise of including both their names on any song written by either Paul or John. Paul was pissed about Yoko being in the studio; John was adament about having Yoko in the studio; who walked out, who threatened what, didn't matter - the original pact stayed about any song including Lennon/McCartney.

Shoot, Lennon even went so far as to include his solo single, Give Peace A Chance, as a McCartney co-write.

Guess things were different in those days. There's no honor nowadays. For all the bad things people say about the 1960's, they conveniently forget about the good things. Like honoring an unwritten pact. Also gone now is the discreetness newspaper and magazine reporters had if they knew something juicy (or was that just reserved for "public officials?")



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Old 07-31-2007, 11:51 AM   #184 of 194
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Like honoring an unwritten pact.

Maybe I'm wrong, but I thought there were some legal issues surrounding the use of Lennon/McCartney on each song that was written by one of them regardless of the other's involvement or lack thereof.
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Old 07-31-2007, 03:33 PM   #185 of 194
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I don't think there was any legal obligation...I actually have an article strictly about their song publishing so I can check it out later.

Speaking of "Give Peace a Chance," I'm sure everyone remembers the huge controversy McCartney/Lennon controversy a few years back. But what nobody seems to realize is that, as early as 1990, Yoko Ono had removed Paul's name from "Give Peace a Chance."


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Old 07-31-2007, 03:37 PM   #186 of 194
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I also recall, fairly recently in fact, that Paul tried to do the same with all the songs he wrote without John, but Yoko wouldn't allow that.



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Old 07-31-2007, 03:54 PM   #187 of 194
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I recall the story being that Paul wanted to change the songwriting credit on "Yesterday" to McCartney/Lennon for a compilation that he wanted to put out. He offered to remove his name from "Give Peace a Chance" to Yoko in exchange, but she refused.
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Old 07-31-2007, 05:54 PM   #188 of 194
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I also recall, fairly recently in fact, that Paul tried to do the same with all the songs he wrote without John, but Yoko wouldn't allow that.

No, Macca never tried to eliminate Lennon's name from all of his Beatle songs. He just wanted to make some of them "McCartney/Lennon" instead of "Lennon/McCartney". This was the proverbial much ado about nothing, since Macca had already done this once: the songs on "Wings Over America" are credited to "McCartney/Lennon". So when John was alive, apparently it didn't bug him.

But Macca NEVER tried to drop John's name completely...



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Old 08-01-2007, 08:29 AM   #189 of 194
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Here's a question I have about songs, and how they're created in the studio. I will concede that either Lennon or McCartney wrote their song - the jist of the song: melody/lyrics. If it was a McCartney composition, Lennon would say he wrote "the middle eight," let's just say. But don't George and Ringo have some input to how their roles are played out on a song? If George comes up with a neat solo on the guitar and if Ringo figures out the drum beat, shouldn't their names be added to a song's creation?

You got four members of a band working on songs. In the early days of The Doors, all members of the group had a credit to every song...it was only when Robby Krieger penned a song in later years and, because Morrison didn't dig the song, he didn't want his name associated with it.



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Old 08-01-2007, 02:24 PM   #190 of 194
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how many think that the Let It Be album would have greatly benefitted by having Come And Get It?



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Old 06-24-2008, 08:28 PM   #191 of 194
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So...anybody heard anything about album remasters? You figure in this age of double-dipping somebody would've come up with the idea of remastering the albums or rereleasing them in deluxe editions (e.g. stereo and mono mixes).



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Old 06-24-2008, 11:44 PM   #192 of 194
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