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Old 02-28-2002, 12:42 PM   #1 of 20
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Anyone here into emo music? I've been getting into it more and more. i.e., bands such as Thursday, Further Seems Forever, Alkaline Trio, Dashboard Confessional, etc, etc.

I've got tix to see Dashboard on 03/23 at The Quest here in Minneapolis! woo hoo!!!

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Old 02-28-2002, 07:55 PM   #2 of 20
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Full Collapse by Thursday is a great record no matter what kind of tag you want to put on it
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Old 03-01-2002, 03:47 AM   #3 of 20
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Ah, his whimsical child-like persona, his bowl haircut, his slow deliberate delivery... we're talking about Emo Phillips, right?
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Old 03-01-2002, 11:09 AM   #4 of 20
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Ironically, I'm listening to Dashboard right now. I also listen to Alkaline Trio among the weird mix of music I'm into, but haven't heard of Thursday, guess I'll have to check that out!

Have you seen Dashboard live before? They're playing near hear on the 15th, and I'm trying to decide whether to go...

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Old 03-01-2002, 12:59 PM   #5 of 20
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What in the name of sweet chicken ass is "emo music"?!? That's not the "tickle-me" Sesame Street guy, is it?

No, seriously--I've heard the term and don't know what it is--did it derive from punk?
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Old 03-01-2002, 01:45 PM   #6 of 20
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Andy -

All of this is from what I understand. I am by no means an expert...

Emo (or emocore) is an offshoot of hardcore punk. Basically it injected more melody and emotion into the hardcore scene. It started with groups like Hüsker Dü and Fugazi with others like Sunny Day Real Estate and Weezer following and inspiring countless imitators. Now it seems like there is a continuum that ranges from the relatively lighter sounds of Dashboard Confessional and Pedro the Lion to the harder sounds of 764-HERO and Alkaline Trio.

You can read more from people who know more than me at:
http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=C4525

Hope this helps
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Old 03-02-2002, 02:06 AM   #7 of 20
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I read smoehwer its like 'Punk with heart'...

I know all you hardcore emo fans may dissaprove of my description of bands of emo, but bands like NewFoundGlory that kind of pop/punk/emo i like...

I think ill check those other one sout.. does anybody have any recommendations of kind of pop-punky style emo that may ease me into it?



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Old 03-04-2002, 08:34 AM   #8 of 20
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I haven't really been into the whole emo-scene for all that long. The music almost seems to incorporate itself into a lifestyle, per se. Weird, I know.

If anyone at all is interested in knowing more info on bands, you can go to this website:

The Make Out Club

It sounds ridiculous but it's a seemingly popular website regarding any and all things emo and punk. Plus, you can look at the dorky profiles while you're obtaining music information. heh heh...

Hot Rod Circuit, Audio learning Center, Saves the Day, Further Seems Forever, Dashboard Confessional, The New Amsterdams, The Anniversary, Hey Mercedes, Alkaline Trio, Face to Face, No Motiv, The Get Up Kids, Thursday, Modest Mouse, and Less Than Jake...

these are all some of the bands I've had the pleasure of recently listening to. Yeah, they're emo alright...

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Old 03-04-2002, 11:08 AM   #9 of 20
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Quote:
Emo (or emocore) is an offshoot of hardcore punk. Basically it injected more melody and emotion into the hardcore scene. It started with groups like Hüsker Dü and Fugazi with others like Sunny Day Real Estate and Weezer following and inspiring countless imitators. Now it seems like there is a continuum that ranges from the relatively lighter sounds of Dashboard Confessional and Pedro the Lion to the harder sounds of 764-HERO and Alkaline Trio.

Actually, pre fugazi, the "Revolution Summer" bands from DC- both Guy's "Rites of Spring" and Ian's "Embrace" were described as emotional-hardcore... later shortened to EMO-core... and now just EMO.

The problem with "emo" is that as it has "evolved"- just like countless other styles, the pioneers of the style (who never proclaimed the name or embraced it as a specific style) are cast aside for more cliche and "to the jugular" pop presentations under the banner of name only.

While bands like Fugazi, Rites of Spring, Jawbox, SDRE all had what is now, in retrospect, a decidely "emo" slant-- none of those proclaimed themselves as an "emo" band- and all of them offered a unique approach to rock that set them apart from even one another. Just like minor threat disavowed the concept of "staight edge" genre that they themselves started, essentially by accident... the pioneers of what is now called "emo" have little relation to the band currently flying that banner.

What was called "punk", "Progressive" or "alternative" in the late 80's- as those terms were commercialized by popular music and Mtv - those bands still aligned with the original music style started referring to itself as "underground" or "indie" to distance itself from commercial alternative. As the late 90's also shined the mainstream light on the "indie" movement- many bands simply took to calling themselves "emo".

As a result, the evolution of what was really an interesting off shoot of hardcore music- with emphasis on melodic stengths as well as raw intesity has grown to be essentially pop-rock in an acceptible counter-culture wrapper.

While I will admit to owning a couple cliche emo records (Get Up Kids, Appleseed Cast, Planes mistaken for stars-- pretty much any album released by Deep Elm) I would never really consider any of those bands "emo"-- and I have never been able to sink my teeth into Acoustic guitar pop like Dashboard Confessionals or to SDRE knock offs like Mineral.

It seems like such an insult to what the music once was about to take nearly anything and stick it under the banner of "emo". Much the same way I cringed when Alanis Morisette was considered "alternative", I have a hard time hearing Get Up Kids as anything more than very poppy rock band. I think Get Up Kids are more musically akin to Journey (and that's not necessarily a bad thing) than Rites of Spring or Husker Du.

As SDRE got old and made bad records (and broke up a half dozen times), Jawbox disbanded and spawned the new-wavy Burning Airlines... really the interesting bands of the genre are long gone (aside from Fugazi- although they have morphed many times and no longer sound like the band they were in the early 90's)-- and what is left, in my opinion, is basically pop rock made on low budgets. Much of this new "emo" (Saves the Day, Jimmy Eat World, Jets to Brazil, New Found Glory) is just fine, cute, and often fun and catchy-- but very little of it offers any new take on the concept of musical expression. Nothing wrong with that- but it seems a shame to classify it under the same header as bands who were really doing something new.

Just my opinion, could be wrong.

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