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It seems we're only discussing the Beatles here...how about other groups...the Rolling Stones, Bob Dylan, seem not to
have the same...what is the word, maniacal effect on Music Lovers ?????
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02-01-2002, 09:34 AM
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It seems we're only discussing the Beatles here...how about other groups...the Rolling Stones, Bob Dylan, seem not to
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I'm sure they do, but since you haven't compared them to 'N Sync and Aaron Carter, respectively, yet, the thread hasn't had to go that way...
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02-01-2002, 10:33 AM
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Bob Dylan commands as rabid and loyal a fan base as do the Beatles. Love him or not, one can see how he can draw listeners in.
Until very recently, I had a distant respect for Dylan- I always felt his music just wasn't my thing. However, my tastes change faster than a baby's diaper, and I've been snapping up a lot of Dylan's back catalogue. My favorite Dylan material is the stuff he did right after he began using a back-up band: Bringing It Back Home, Highway 61 Revisited, Blonde on Blonde, John Wesley Harding. I also like the new album a lot.
I don't think Dylan is overrated. He got slammed critically and commercially in the 80s, so there are plenty of people who look at his music objectively.
As much as I like the Beatles, I have said before that they are overrated simply because they are often not looked at objectively. I'm not referring to anyone here, but the general population of listeners.
I would say the Rolling Stones have a very inconsistent output of music, but I don't think they are really overrated. Their impact was huge when they first hit the scene, and at their best, they were able to improve their music by writing some great original material. If I had been around in the 60s, I imagine I would have been a big Stones fan.
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02-02-2002, 07:43 AM
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Thank you very much, Mike, for your comments. I especially liked your comments about the Stones.
While we always have something to say about The Big Ones...it seems to me, The Others usually enjoy a relationship that can be best described as...you either like them or not, and if you do, you are a loyal fan follower of their music. There are no deep philosophical questions or emotional feelings that run as deep and personal as with The Big Ones.
I'm talking about groups like Deep Purple, who seem to not take their fans for granted, they cultivate a loyal, and strong fan base, and in this dot.com age, have provided for the Fan as much customer service as they can think of.
I'm aware there are other groups like this, and it's good to see some exchange with the Fan other than ponying up to the counter with your coin to purchase Product. There is some exchange on another level with the Fan's, that an A&R person could accomplish, no matter how savvy he or she is to sell the Next Album. Groups like the Grateful Dead always did, Wilco, Uncle Tupelo, Pearl Jam, R.E.M. and now the Who, for example, really value a strong personal relationship and "touch", with their fan base, that in the not so olden days was missing from the business.
Some of these old farts just don't get it yet, but you do see a change, and see them starting to jump on board.
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02-02-2002, 08:45 AM
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The bands you,list are interesting, MikeAW. Many of those guys have really matured as songwriters over the years (example: Townshend progressing from "Hop I die before I get old" to later ruminations on growing old). Maybe that has something to do with their connection with the audience; a more mature perspective on their lives and the business in general, which causes them to appreciate the place of the fans in the whole music transaction.
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01-26-2003, 05:14 PM
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Elvis Presley
Rush
Led Zeppelin
Pink Floyd
Rolling Stones
ZZ Top
Eminem
Madonna
Tori Amos
Kate Bush
U2
The Doors
Garth Brooks
Shania Twain
Alan Jackson
Radiohead
Oasis
Bush
Smashing Pumpkins
Soundgarden
Van Halen
Barbra Streisand
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01-26-2003, 05:17 PM
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Enrique Iglesias.
Nuff said. 
no fears alone at night she's sailing through the crowd
in her ears the phones are tight and the music's playing loud
~skateaway
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01-26-2003, 10:43 PM
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I disagree with Rob P S------------
Tell me what you regard as your greatest strength, so I will know how best to undermine you; tell me of your greatest fear, so I will know which I must force you to face; tell me what you cherish most, so I will know what to take from you; and tell me what you crave, so that I might deny you.
-Darth Plageius
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01-26-2003, 10:55 PM
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Me too, he left off Oasis.
"Always tell the truth. It's the easiest thing to remember."
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01-26-2003, 11:24 PM
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The Dave Matthews Band.
I just don't get it. What makes this band so popular.
And.....
Tina Turner. Well let's put it this way, I'd rather listen to Dave Matthews.
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01-27-2003, 01:00 AM
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Nora Jones is the flavor of the month, at least in Austin. I don't get it. There is nothing distinguishing about her voice, if the DJ's didn't ID her I would have no idea who was singing.
The new Texas Monthly has her on the cover. WTF?
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01-27-2003, 03:58 AM
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She's from Texas, Jim.
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