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Old 05-06-2008, 04:28 PM   #1 of 33
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Neil Young to release archive on BluRay disc


From the AP: Neil Young to release archive on BluRay disc.

I'm not a fan of Neil Young but I remember many years ago, when CDs were in their heyday, that he expressed dissatisfaction with how CD's 44.1 sampling rate felt, and announced that he simply could not see releasing his archives on CD.

Seems like his patience was to his advantage.



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Old 05-06-2008, 04:31 PM   #2 of 33
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The article does get one point quite wrong, though. While you can download stuff onto the storage drive of a blu-ray player, you cannot download "more stuff" onto the discs themselves. Maybe someone should let Neil know that.



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Old 05-06-2008, 06:14 PM   #3 of 33
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"The first installment of Young's archive will cover the years 1963 to 1972 and will be released as a 10-disc set this fall on Reprise/Warner Bros. Records."

I'm having some sort of flashback, like I've heard this before.
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Old 05-06-2008, 06:57 PM   #4 of 33
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I'm having some sort of flashback, like I've heard this before.

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Old 05-06-2008, 07:30 PM   #5 of 33
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I don't understand why they'd choose blu-ray. Why not SACD or DVD-A? No hardware/software problems with them like with BD now. Plus, just like with DVD-A, we'll need to turn on a display to play an audio disc. SACD would be my choice. It'll be curious if it's also BD for Europe too.



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Old 05-06-2008, 08:56 PM   #6 of 33
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I'm a big Neil fan but I don't own a BD player yet and don't plan to in the near future.

IMHO he has shrunk an already limited market for this project down even further
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Old 05-07-2008, 12:26 AM   #7 of 33
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Kevin -- "Earlier technology didn't offer the ability to browse archive material while listening to songs in high-resolution audio, Young noted. 'Previous technology required unacceptable quality compromises,' he said in a statement. 'I am glad we waited and got it right.'"

So he likes the interactive visuals of BluRay. But I think the main reason he didn't go with SACD or DVDA is because they're abandoned formats - what would be the point?


Now that I've watched the video of his presentation (audience-shot recording of the demo), I am very impressed by the amount of visuals...and grateful that animation has advanced so far that this sort of visual archive can even be possible. In the demo they show off a dilapidated, rusty file cabinet, full of aged folders -- some of which contain his earlier vinyl 45s, some have photos, some have handwriten lyrics, interview snippets, etc., all rendered in 1080p. There's a timeline rendered as a cork board with tacks and strings and other bits of miscelanea. It just goes on and on, forever. And yes, there's also a play-all if you just want to turn off the tv.

Neil Young may have done it first, but I think this sort of approach would be great for any other long-term musician like David Bowie or Bob Dylan... I don't know if any non-billionaire musicians could afford to have this kind of project undertaken in so much detail.



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Old 05-07-2008, 07:47 AM   #8 of 33
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Very cool news! I wonder what they'll use, LPCM or lossless compression.

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But I think the main reason he didn't go with SACD or DVDA is because they're abandoned formats - what would be the point?
Of course. He does want to sell the discs, after all. I've got a decent DVD-A/SACD collection, but I've got no problem with this being BD, makes more sense.
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Old 05-07-2008, 09:45 AM   #9 of 33
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I'm not a big NY fan, but I actually like this idea. I do agree with Kevin though in that we'll once again need to turn on our display.



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Old 05-07-2008, 02:22 PM   #10 of 33
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Re: Neil Young to release archive on BluRay disc


Here's a video recorded from the audience, of Neil Young's demo of the first of his archive releases:

Live Video Demo of Neil Young’s Blu-ray Archive



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Old 05-07-2008, 07:51 PM   #11 of 33
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I bet there are a heckuva lot more SACD/DVD-A players out there than BD players right now. So ... he wants to sell a bunch of these, right?

And this makes no sense: 'Previous technology required unacceptable quality compromises,' Someone please explain to me about the quality compromises associated with either DVD-A or SACD.



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Old 05-07-2008, 08:46 PM   #12 of 33
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I bet there are a heckuva lot more SACD/DVD-A players out there than BD players right now. So ... he wants to sell a bunch of these, right?


Right now. How many are using them as such? No one I know is aware of SACD or DVD-A as audio formats. They're dead to the consumer. In fact, they were never born. The fact that I love them doesn't change this. And, yeah, I'm assuming he wants to sell them, so he's hoping to step out of a niche.
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Old 05-08-2008, 04:56 PM   #13 of 33
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I'm a big Neil fan but I don't own a BD player yet and don't plan to in the near future.

I'm a big Neil young fan, and have been waiting for this set since it was announced as "Decade II" in 1988... looks like I get to keep waiting since I don't own a blu-ray player, and with my current set up, can't justify it just to buy what would be an already expensive box set.

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