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10-15-2005, 05:12 PM
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I find myself in a position I never thought I'd be in. That is: to double-dip on CDs that I've purchased within just the past few months.
I'm not talking about upgrading discs because of improved resolutions or re-masterings.
I am talking about buying the newest CD of a favorite artist only to find out that that same CD at another retail outlet contains "exclusive" bonus tracks.
For example, I recently purchased the CD Rock of Ages by Amy Grant when I accidentally discovered it while browsing at my local Borders. Looking now in this week's Best Buy Target flyer, I find out that BB Target has three exclusive songs on its versions of the CD! Aaaargh!
Jim Brickman has just released a CD of Disney tunes. The version at Borders has two tracks which cannot be found on the copies being sold at any other store. This I actually found out about ahead of time via an email from Borders.
This is a little different, but I also purchased Diana Krall's CD, The Girl in the Other Room, several months ago upon its release...only to find out later at another store that a dual disc version had been released for virtually THE SAME PRICE! I decided to purchase the Dual version to get the 5.1 mixes.
I know there have been other artists which have made similar arrangements with Target (Krall among them, I believe) which has resulted in exclusive bonus tracks available only at Target stores.
I guess I could research these things better to know about them ahead of time. And, I know I could just sell the other title if I do double-dip...
But, I feel that I'm getting gypped if I find out I have a CD that is missing tracks that exist on another version of the same title. For me, the practice ends up causing a loss of good will between the artist and his/her/their fan base.
Anyone else having issues with this?
EDIT** Another glance at my Target flyer shows a Martina McBride CD with Four Exclusive Songs.
There's Jessie the yodeling cowgirl. Bullseye, he's Woody's horse. Pete the old prospector. And, Woody, the man himself. Of course, it's time for Woody's RoundUp. He's the very best! He's the rootinest, tootinest cowboy in the wild, wild west!
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10-15-2005, 06:51 PM
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I absolutely hate the concept of exclusives, and this is one of the worst.
Probably the worst recent example would be Paul McCartney's Chaos and Creation in the Backyard. If you bought the album at Target, Best Buy, or Circuit City, you would get an exclusive download. Not a big deal, except that each store has a different song. The BB and CC ones can be bought on import singles, but the Target one is the Japan-only bonus track that costs $50 at Amazon.
I got the BB one and I'm pretty pissed...what's worst is that I bought the deluxe version which should theoretically include all the songs, but it doesn't.
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10-19-2005, 04:42 PM
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Anthony: Has there been any discussion/interest/anger among music customers about this practice?
Admittedly, my focus has been on DVD product more closely the past coupla years than CDs...but this seems like one of those dumb ideas that is just going to end up pissing off fans of the artist. Maybe, though, I'm just a johnny-come-lately to the discussion?! 
There's Jessie the yodeling cowgirl. Bullseye, he's Woody's horse. Pete the old prospector. And, Woody, the man himself. Of course, it's time for Woody's RoundUp. He's the very best! He's the rootinest, tootinest cowboy in the wild, wild west!
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10-19-2005, 05:41 PM
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Well, I can't say music customers in general, but I know quite a few McCartney fans were upset that they couldn't get all three songs at once. There was a downloading ring at one Beatles site; prove that you had one of the songs (by giving the code that you used to download the first song) and you would get the other two through email.
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10-19-2005, 09:35 PM
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I'm not the upgrading type when it comes to music unless it's a remaster. I admit I was tempted to get the Killers: Hot Fuss Limited Edition for it's extra tracks but I passed. And I have no interest whatsoever in getting the new bonus track version of Mariah's latest. I regret buying the regular version. Her first two albums were solid but she's gone downhill since, with Mimi hitting rock bottom.
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10-21-2005, 04:29 PM
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I'm not the upgrading type when it comes to music unless it's a remaster. I admit I was tempted to get the Killers: Hot Fuss Limited Edition for it's extra tracks but I passed.
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But, John, doesn't it bug you at all that those tracks are on certain copies of the CD...but not the one you bought? That's my point. I feel gypped...and only because I supported the artist by buying their recording at one retail store...and not another (which he/she/they happened to strike some deal with).
It just seems like a really odd marketing practice.
There's Jessie the yodeling cowgirl. Bullseye, he's Woody's horse. Pete the old prospector. And, Woody, the man himself. Of course, it's time for Woody's RoundUp. He's the very best! He's the rootinest, tootinest cowboy in the wild, wild west!
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10-22-2005, 11:39 PM
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In this week's Sunday flyers:
Circuit City is advertising DualDisc releases for Bette Midler Sings the Peggy Lee Songbook ($12.99 compared to $11.99 for the CD-only release) and Aerosmith: Rockin' the Joint Live at the Hard Rock Hotel ($12.99).
Best Buy also has the DualDisc release for Aerosmith advertised as well as a DualDisc release of Destiny Child's #1s (both DDs are $13.99 compared to $11.99 CD-only releases).
Target:
Destiny Child's #1 -- Dual Disc $12.98/CD-only $9.98
Bette Midler/Peggy Lee -- Dual Disc $12.98/CD-only $11.98
Aerosmith/Rockin' the Joint -- DualDisc $11.98/CD-only $9.98
Target is also advertising TWO Target-EXCLUSIVE songs on the Aerosmith CD and ONE EXCLUSIVE song on The Christmas Collection - Il Divo.
Does anyone know (not that I plan on buying it anyway) if the Aerosmith DualDisc would ALSO have the EXCLUSIVE tracks at Target? That seems like it takes it to another level of confusing.
I didn't mean for this post to turn into a mini-CD Weekly RoundUp or anything...I just took a close look at this week's flyers CD releases and don't like what I see.
I guess the bottom line is that the CD-consumer needs to be armed with as much knowledge as possible to make an intelligent purchase (as it is true with any purchase). I guess, though, I just think of CDs as impulse buys...and, until this practice began recently, it wasn't something I ever needed to worry about before. I guess the times they are a-changin'. I just don't always have to like it.
Must be gettin' old.
There's Jessie the yodeling cowgirl. Bullseye, he's Woody's horse. Pete the old prospector. And, Woody, the man himself. Of course, it's time for Woody's RoundUp. He's the very best! He's the rootinest, tootinest cowboy in the wild, wild west!
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10-26-2005, 07:09 PM
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Does anyone know (not that I plan on buying it anyway) if the Aerosmith DualDisc would ALSO have the EXCLUSIVE tracks at Target? That seems like it takes it to another level of confusing.
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I just bought the Aerosmith - Rockin' the Joint DualDisc at Target today for $11.98. It does have the two bonus tracks (Livin' on the Edge and What it Takes) on it but they are only on the DVD side and not the CD side. That kind of ticks me off because now I can only listen to the bonus tracks in a DVD player. The CD only version tacks the bonus tracks on at the end of the disc but I'm not sure it they are part of the show or not. |
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10-26-2005, 08:10 PM
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How stupid is that?
You can get the bonus tracks on CD if you buy the CD-only release. But if you buy the DualDisc release you don't get the tracks on the CD side? Wht possible sense could that make?!
Artists need to decide which songs to include on a recording...and stick to it...and make sure all copies of their recording have the tracks. Isn't there some kind of important artistic decision-making (part of the creative process) that decides which songs to include on an album and in-what-order??? If so, how can you justify screwing with it?
I know: it's a rather Pollyanna-ish idea to think that artists don't allow creative decisions to be based on $$$.
There's Jessie the yodeling cowgirl. Bullseye, he's Woody's horse. Pete the old prospector. And, Woody, the man himself. Of course, it's time for Woody's RoundUp. He's the very best! He's the rootinest, tootinest cowboy in the wild, wild west!
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