Does Ryan Adam's COLD ROSES sound Dead or unDead?

Rachael B · 05-20-2005, 03:50 PM

After listening to this album for a week or so, it's so, so Grateful Dead sounding. Most especially, Disc #2. The title cut sounds like a song lost from the Aoxomoxoa sessions. He seems to have a good handle on Jerry's guitar style. I'm not critisizing him for sounding Dead or unDead. I mean, his last album was like U2. Who will he mimmic next? To me, Adams is the most derivative rock/pop/kuntry musican possible, maybe? I kind'a like him that way.

MichaelPR · 05-20-2005, 05:50 PM

I really enjoy his music! I Own all of his stuff minus Whiskey Town. I am loving Cold Roses....I can't comment on how Dead it sounds because I have honestly never really listened to the Dead. Adams is a very versatile musician and amazes me in the quantity of songs he creates with quality lyrics.

Dan Joy · 05-20-2005, 09:40 PM

Me likey it all!!!!!!!
Cannot comment on the dead though

Rachael B · 05-21-2005, 10:05 AM

Ya'all should listen to some Dead music. AMERICAN BEAUTY is an intesting starting point. Ryan, apparently, does.

TomCW · 05-21-2005, 10:16 PM

I'd say UnDead... Cold Roses sounds more like the Jayhawks than the Dead to me.

Tom

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Rachael B · 05-21-2005, 10:44 PM

I'm not sure I ever heard them Tom. I have heard of them but I might have heard them on college radio in the fuzzy-wuzzy past...? Hay, then they must sound like the Dead too!?!

How long since you listened to Axomoxa? Ryan's got everything but the harpsicord sound that going on in that album. I think he latched on to their 60's sound. Have ya been a Dead fan? I'm far from a Dead-head but I've seen them 3 times, actually, long before the Dead-head thang was going on. He's definitely not doing the first S/T'ed Dead with the whiney organ. But after that...me thinks.

I'll have to hear these Jayhawks. They sound like outlaws.

TomCW · 05-22-2005, 07:03 PM

Rachael, check them out!
http://www.thejayhawks.net/ Rainy Day Music is pretty good musically, although the sound quality is nothing to write home about.

I'm not a Dead fan, I remember hearing songs off American Beauty back in the day...then Touch of Grey, but nothing else.

Tom

DavidNighorn · 05-22-2005, 09:54 PM

For the Jayhhawks, try Holllywood Town Hall or Tomorrow the Green Grass. The latter album is nearly a perfect work IMHO.

And for those who are listening to Ryan Adams but have not heard Whiskeytown, you are missing something great. I highly recommend Strangers Almanac. That one is a perfect work.

David

Rachael B · 05-23-2005, 09:12 AM

I figured more folks would of heard atleast 4 or 5 Dead albums. They must of made 40 or so, plus all those bootlegs. I listened to and modestly liked the Dead in the late 60's and early 70's. I saw them at Watkin-Glen racetrack and twice at the Academy of Music in Citidad York Neuevo. I've listened to enough Dead to have a good handle on them and their sound.

I don't get the Dead out too often anymore. Why would I need to with Ryan around? He does the Dead better than the actual Dead. I suspec that the Jaywawks may also...? I always pick on Ryan's influences very quickly. What next?

Bill Leber · 05-23-2005, 02:28 PM

I don't think Cold Roses sounds like a Dead album as much as Adam's guitar sounds like Jerry's. If that makes any sense.

I think the Dead vibe, however, was intentional. Even the album art is a nod to American Beauty. Ryan played with Phil Lesh recently, so there's definately a connection.

Anyone who is a fan of alt-country, americana, or whatever you wnat to call it needs to listen to The Grateful Dead's Workingman's Dead. It and American Beauty are 2 classic American rock records that every music fan should own. Check out some samples on Amazon or allmusic.com if you don't believe me.