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04-27-2004, 10:57 AM
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Can any format ever replace CD?
I'm saying no, not under the present conditions. People aren't going to accept any new format that interferes too much with their home recording/portables too much. Now that every new format is an attempt to stem home recording in whole or part, how can the market (peoples) do anything but hold their ground? Stalemate!
Rachael, the big disc cat! I used to be looking for Hi-Vision Laserdiscs & D-Theater tapes, now I'm looking for HD-DVD's and Blu-rays.
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04-27-2004, 11:06 AM
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Thats what I said back in the early 70's about
cassettes... 
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04-27-2004, 12:13 PM
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The only way would be for the industry to do what it did to the LP. Just stop making the CD's and FORCE a new format. The CD was born just by doing that to the LP. It is funny though that the LP will not die.
Charles
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04-27-2004, 12:51 PM
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CD is a perfect medium.
Clear sound. Huge hardware base. Light. Durable. CD-R's approaching $ .25.
Most P2P's have yet to hear .wav over mp3.
It's still got a long way to go. Most portable players come with headphones that don't even begin to approach the fidelity of CD.
Unless a car could be manufactured without cabin noise, CD is perfect for travellin' tunes.
It is hard to appreciate advanced resolution audio DVD-A, SA-CD at parties, no?
simplicity is genius...
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04-27-2004, 01:26 PM
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I think it will be a tough sell to replace CDs with anything for mainstream music. I can't foresee anything in the short to mid-term making them go away. As was noted the record cos. could stop making them (or even raise prices), but given the hardware nos. out there, that would only be a disaster.
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04-27-2004, 01:44 PM
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A few thoughts:
1-Any player of the new format would have be backwards compatible.
2-The discs would have to be the same size as CD's. Think about it, there would still be demand for universal players what with dvd, dvd-a, sacd, hd-dvd, etc.
3-There would definitely be expensive copyright protection involved or the record companies wouldn't touch it.
4-How much better could it really sound.
The cost/benefit factors seem to suggest it would never work.
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04-27-2004, 02:03 PM
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Compressed audio delivered without physical media is going to represent an increasing challenge to the audio CD format. I don't think the audio CD will vanish, not by a long stretch, but Generation Z (whatever they're called, and sorry for the generalization) seems interested in single tracks as files of 1's and 0's, and not necessarily in holding a physical item, such as an audio CD, in their hands.
Like it or not, low-rez is here to stay.
Me, I'm keeping the only two formats I need, my CDs and my vinyl... 
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04-27-2004, 03:05 PM
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For pop/rock, CD will be replaced by iTunes/AAC, Napster/WMA, etc.
But sales will never return to previous levels. Buyers will spend the $4 for the 4 tracks they like instead of $16 for the same 4 tracks (plus 8 tracks of filler).
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04-27-2004, 03:12 PM
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Michael:
Absolutely. The high-rez bickering continues, but low-rez will continue to lead the way forward, for better or for worse.
I think the future holds more and more purchases of individual tracks and music DVD-Video titles (concerts, videos, etc), and further deterioration of traditional CD sales. As for hi-rez, of the current formats, I think DVD-Audio has a far better chance of long-term survival, based simply on the issue of hardware, as you have argued elsewhere.
To the typical consumer (no offense intended), .mp3/.aac/.wma are "good enough."
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04-27-2004, 03:23 PM
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Part of the problem is the 5 1/4" standard being forced upon us for everything:Audio CD, CD-ROM, DVD, Video Games.
To the mainstream consumer, there is little they can do to discern between all these formats.
So now the industry wants you to buy and pay more for a disc that is the same size as a regular audio CD but is supposed to NEW and IMPROVED, but you have to buy all new players to replace your car player, home stereo, boom box, hand held player, etc. But almost all these systems will not show the better performance anyway because those devices will not make the hi-rez CD sound good? To most, that sounds like snake oil, so why should they bite? Just for the benefit of a few audiophiles? I doubt it.
I agree, if you want SACD to be the main format, pull ALL redbook CDs from the shelves just like that and sell nothing but SACD. It worked for LPs.
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