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04-26-2004, 10:55 AM
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Can you burn SACD and dvd audio discs?
For backup copies of course!If it can be done do you loose any sound quality between the two? Thanks Tim
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04-26-2004, 11:31 AM
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From what I understand (I am no computer expert) there is stuff out there that would allow the making of DVD-As (not SACD at the moment). I am not sure that it allows the capturing of data in the digital domain (I could be wrong). So it might be a bit better quality than one could get making a CD-R via analog connections but I personally have not seen stuff that will do what you are looking to. You may want to look at posts by real experts (not me) in the DVD-A section of audioasylum.com. I'm sure John Kotches is much more up on this stuff than just about anyone as well.
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04-26-2004, 11:42 AM
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No, it currently cannot be done.
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04-26-2004, 12:32 PM
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Can you burn SACD and dvd audio discs?
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I don't think either Merredian or Sony/Philips makes their encoders available to the public.
Feline videophiles Susie and Dukie.
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04-26-2004, 12:38 PM
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Dennis,
Discwelder has the SurCode MLP option, so if you're willing to pony up the $2495, you can purchase an MLP encoder and use it yourself.
You have to get DiscWelder Chrome too, which means the total price is $4490 when bundled together.
So it is out of reach of most, but to say that MLP encoders aren't made public is a bit inaccurate 
Cheers,
Surround Music Enthusiast / Curmudgeon in Training
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04-26-2004, 12:49 PM
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There are programs (about $20) which can extract audio from DVDs (and if need be, downmix from 5.1 to 2, which is useful if you love a concert dvd but want to play theaudio in your car), but the only audio that can be extracted at present is the video-compliant audio track from a DVD or DVD-A. (Many DVD-As include a DVD video-compliant audio track, but this isn't really what you were looking for).
Short answer: No.
On a related note, I haven't actually seen any DVD-A programs yet, for home musicians (ie the "under $5000" audience). They might exist but if so they aren't common yet. What has been springing up like dandelions lately are programs that allow one to make DADs - Digitial Audio Discs, which is simply digital audio content recorded onto the audio portion of a video-compliant DVD-R or DVD+R. You can fit like 6 hours/99 songs onto a recordable DVD, which is very convenient. (Indeed, if more cars had DVD players I am sure you'd seen many unabridged books-on-tape released as one DVD rather than as 5-part CDs). But these aren't DVD-As, they are just DVDs with audio.
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04-26-2004, 01:24 PM
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Feline videophiles Susie and Dukie.
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04-26-2004, 02:26 PM
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How about the cd layer from a Hybrid sacd?
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04-26-2004, 02:29 PM
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I believe WaveLab 5 has full DVD-A authoring, up to 24/192, for under $1000.
Also, it supports 9 groups of 99 tracks, so you could rip a bunch of CDs and burn them onto a single DVD-A at the native 16/44.1 resolution.
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04-26-2004, 02:32 PM
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Dan - no trouble ripping the CD layer from a hybrid or even a regular CD. I currently use a Pioneer Elite regular audio (vs. PC) CD Recorder to make stuff for the cars. It is easier to rip the CD layer in the digital domain for that purpose than worry about level controls going from analog output jacks (to try to convert the SACD layer to CD) and I doubt I would hear much difference at all, especially in the car. Some have reported problems reading hybrids on certain PC DVD drives.
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04-26-2004, 02:36 PM
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Some have reported problems reading hybrids on certain PC DVD drives.
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I've got a pair of brand-new Toshiba SD-M1712 DVD-ROM drives, and neither can read them. I've also got a recent Optorite burner that has some problems reading them, and a few Dell drives at the office that cannot read them.
Trust me, I know. I'm always jumping through hoops when I need to rip the CD layer.
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04-26-2004, 03:23 PM
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Here are the Wavelab 5 specs relevant to DVD-A:
* WaveLab 5.0 allows you to create DVD-Audio disks, ie. DVDs with high resolution audio in stereo or multi-channel modes, with pictures, menus, etc.
* Support all channel modes defined by the specification: mono, stereo, 3, 4, 5, 6 channel surround.
* Support 16 and 24 bit up to 192 kHz
* Support 9 groups of 99 tracks. Each group is embodied as a separate Audio Montage.
* Support for track indexes (up to 99 indexes par track)
* Semi-automated generation of DVD menus. You can define the styles, layouts, pictures, etc. and menus are generated according to the audio contents | |
