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Old 01-21-2004, 09:48 PM   #1 of 50
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I'm not much of a Stones fan, but with the new catalog of ABKCO hybrid Sack-Dees available for $9.99 each at http://www.towerrecords.com/promo.as...2c5a9e73b79f76 I thought I should get some.

The package from Tower.com came today. The sound quality is pretty nice, but of course I have no reference to previous editions.

But ABKCO is absolutely crazy. Nowhere on the external packaging is there any hint that these discs are hybrid SACDs. You have to open the package and read the liner notes to find this out. Why in the...heck are they being coy about these releases? If I had picked them up in a rack at a B&M store I would have put them back down and kept looking for the Sack-Dee version.



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Old 01-21-2004, 10:07 PM   #2 of 50
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It was a deliberate move on the label's part to leave off the SACD designator. They wanted the hybrid discs included in the regular CD bins in stores rather than being lost in the back of stores like Best Buy, Circuit City, etc, etc, which seemed to be clueless as to where to put SACDs when the Stones discs first came out. Since ABKCO has sold 2 million copies of the reissues the decision doesn't seem to have hurt sales any.

Hmmm, I wish I'd bought all of mine at $9.99 each. Enjoy!



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Old 01-21-2004, 10:57 PM   #3 of 50
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I remember seeing quite a discussion of this when these first came out. If I recall, there isn't any mention of SACD anywhere on the CD or in the liner notes.



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Old 01-22-2004, 11:08 AM   #4 of 50
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I'm pretty sure that there is an SACD and/or DSD logo on the discs.


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Old 01-22-2004, 12:14 PM   #5 of 50
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If I recall, there isn't any mention of SACD anywhere on the CD or in the liner notes


There is definately a designator on the inside of the packaging. However, I don't think there is any designation on the outside of the packaging.





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Old 01-22-2004, 01:58 PM   #6 of 50
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That's what I'm getting at. There is absolutely nothing on the outside of the package that would even hint that there's a Sack-Dee inside. The liner notes inside do discuss the hybrid SACD nature of the disc and the disk itself is marked DSD.



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Old 01-22-2004, 02:01 PM   #7 of 50
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You should be thankful it doesn't say SACD on the outside otherwise Tower would probably mark it up to $30 a disc.


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Old 01-22-2004, 02:54 PM   #8 of 50
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You should be thankful it doesn't say SACD on the outside otherwise Tower would probably mark it up to $30 a disc.


Actually that's DVDA pricing Larry.

Also be thankful there was no mention of Super Audio. It kept from confusing retailers about where to put the disc in the bins and likely gave rise to the also superb Dylan series.

And by selling 2 million units gave an extra boost to Super Audio.




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Old 01-22-2004, 03:28 PM   #9 of 50
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Well I guess I should have poked around more....

http://www.hometheaterforum.com/htfo...ht=stones+sacd

Ms. Bitchlist groused about the same thing back in 2002. I only got my first SACD player last summer so I wasn't following the threads.



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Old 01-22-2004, 03:32 PM   #10 of 50
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And the electronics companies want to know why I don't buy a SACD/DVDA player? Because when I go to the store I can't find the product!

Please do not mistake marketing fuck-up for genius.
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Old 01-22-2004, 04:02 PM   #11 of 50
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Dennis, I'm one of Sack-Dee's biggest suppourters and harshest critic all rolled up into one. I quess that makes me a hybrid personality.



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