LanceJ

I'm asking because of these traits of the DTS-CD format:

* requires no special playback hardware--can use either a CD player (digital output only) or dvd player

* no new technology is involved

* no bass management or distance compensation problems

* DTS decoders have been standard features on just about every receiver sold for several years now

* mobile dvd players more and more common now

* operates just like a CD

and the one asterisk sure to cause some discussion .......

* sounds very good

Since hi-res' future still seems uncertain (at least as far as NON-classical/jazz music is concerned), when daydreaming about rock/pop surround music's future, I keep coming back to the DTS-CD format as a viable alternative.

Anybody else have thoughts on this?

LJ

MikeFR

Tool in dts?

I would be very happy.

Very happy.

Mike Broadman

Of course I'd get it, just like I'd get a SACD or DVD-A of an album I like. But since DTS-CDs can't be listened to outside the house, I'd rather already have a DVD-A.

I haven't bought a DTS-CD in ages. The existence of the superior format makes it useless.

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John Berggren

I'd prefer Tool and Radiohead hit hybrid SA-CD as a first choice, and DVD-A as a second. I've been fairly hesitant at buying a fair number of CDs until I'm certain a hirez edition isn't coming.

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Michael St. Clair

Actually, some car systems with DVD players will play DTS CDs.

I'd rather have DVD-A over DTS CD though. Where are you going to find a surround system without a DVD player?

Mike Broadman

Right. And DVD-A players have DTS and/or DD tracks that can also be played in a car.

My point (awkwardly made) was that DVD-A has what DTS-CDs have to offer plus more, so there's no reason to prefer DTS over DVD-A.

The only thing I can think of is that DVD-As might require menu use, where of course DTS does not. But most DVD-As are (and all should be) structured so that putting the disc in and hitting "play" will play the DVD-A track if it's in a compatible player, the DTS/DD track if not.

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Peter_A

I would buy any release of any Tool album on any format. I already have DVD-A and can play DTS CD's but I would buy a SACD player just so I could listen to the Tool releases. Tool in a high resolution audio format.... I can only dream.

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I would buy any Radiohead album on SACD or DVD-A.

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LanceJ

I guess I should have put this in my original post: dvd-audio and to a lesser extent, sacd, seem to be on pretty shaky ground as far as longevity is concerned so this is partly the basis for my daydreaming.

And producing a DTS-CD has got to be cheaper than a dvd-audio or sacd. Though to be honest, I'm not sure WHO it would be cheaper for, DTS Entertainment or the musician (does the musician pay DTS to put his/her work on their format or is it the other way around?).

BTW: the groups I wrote in the subject line are just examples, but specific ones i.e., groups IMO that are particularly suited for surround listening AND that would be bought by loyal fans. Not some no-talent airhead pop princess or music only suitable for equipment demo purposes.

LJ

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Quote:

And producing a DTS-CD has got to be cheaper than a dvd-audio or sacd. Though to be honest, I'm not sure WHO it would be cheaper for, DTS Entertainment or the musician (does the musician pay DTS to put his/her work on their format or is it the other way around?).

I would guess DTS signs an agreement with an artists/label for a certain percentage of royalties in return for them putting the artist on the disc. I imagine that producing a DTS CD is almost as costly as putting out the DVD-A or SACD. An engineer still needs to be hired to mix the album into surround, which takes time and money. With DVD-A you have the added potential of video/menus which also take time, money, and royalties to produce. The biggest savings would from a royalties standpoint (no payments to Sony/Philips or the DVD Counci or whatever it is called). DTS discs don't exactly fly off the shelves as it is so this savings could be quite minimal in the overall production costs.

I would love to see a break down of what an actual DVD-A or SACD disc costs a company to get it to market.

J