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Old 11-11-2003, 12:47 PM   #1 of 33
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Dream Theater - Train of Thought


Released today. Just picked it up at lunch and have listened to most of it. Very, very heavy and dark sound. The opening song "As I Am" sounds much better as a 7 minute plus song than the radio edit. Sounds great so far!

WARNING: This album contains extreme amounts of wanking, shredding, musical masturbation and excess. Not for the faint of heart.



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Old 11-11-2003, 12:56 PM   #2 of 33
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"heavy and dark"

I love that combination! Can't wait to pick this up after work.
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Old 11-11-2003, 01:10 PM   #3 of 33
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WARNING: This album contains extreme amounts of wanking, shredding, musical masturbation and excess. Not for the faint of heart.




I'll get this tonight and probably won't get a chance to listen to it until tomorrow.


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Old 11-12-2003, 09:25 AM   #4 of 33
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Possible good news for you DVD-A owners.

From last night's chat with Mike Portnoy:

ortnoy: Kevin Shirley mixed the entire ToT in 5.1 as well, so we're hoping to do a ToT DVD-A sometime early next year if the sales warrent it for Elektra



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Old 11-12-2003, 01:06 PM   #5 of 33
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Holy shit! Is this album balls-to-the-wall or what, eh?
Lots of changing riffs, with Metallica-crunch and Fates Warning-angularity, all thrown into a bunch of 11 minute songs. Every track except the 2 minute ballad is an assault of heavy metal insanity.

Train of Thought is to Dream Theater as St. Anger was supposed to be for Metallica.


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Old 11-12-2003, 01:58 PM   #6 of 33
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My thoughts exactly Mike, except that I love St. Anger.

I have listened to the album all the way through twice, and my initial impressions are that this will be one of my favorite DT albums. I love the heaviness (does anyone else hear a Sabbath heaviness in some of those riffs?) I also heard a similarity in the structure of some of the lyrics on the second song to Metallica's Blackened! Very cool.

It's always hard for me to judge how much I will eventually like a song or album, but damn this is impressive so far. I wouldn't be surprised if "In the Name of God" ends up being my favorite DT song. Perfect sound with great lyrics.

Man, they can be heavy when they want to be!

DVD Audio would be too much!
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Old 11-12-2003, 02:18 PM   #7 of 33
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I kinda wonder how this record would sound in DVD-A.
There's just so much aggression and power, I don't what spreading it across 5.1 channels would do for it.

Now "Scenes From a Memory". That album was MADE for multi-channel listening.



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Old 11-12-2003, 02:48 PM   #8 of 33
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I'm really liking "Endless Sacrifice", especially after it returns from the instrumental break. "Stream Of Consciousness" is also pretty cool. I'm still trying to gather an opinion on the rest....

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Old 11-12-2003, 02:51 PM   #9 of 33
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I haven't heard the latest release and I strongly doubt I will pick it up due to my dislike of their two previous releases.

Here is an opinion of the new disc that I read that for me pretty much sums up why I didn't like the last two:

I purchased this album the day of release and am once again highly disappointed. Please note however, the two star rating is in relation to my expectations of Dream Theater and not in relation to the rest of popular music in general. In that case, sadly, it would have rated much higher.
While there is no doubt that these guys have some serious chops, their highly regarded musicianship is what I call into question. With each album release since "Awake" their song writing skills seem to diminish even further. It's like listening to one incredibly technical solo after another. At times they even seem to be fighting each other for our attention with their own virtuosity.
Another ever increasingly weak point is the lyrics. This bands two best lyricists were Kevin Moore and John Myung. Kevin is no longer with the band and John might get one song every other album. Quite a shame to ignore such a talent.
If you are a fan of all of their work then this album probably will not disappoint. Go out and buy it. Despite it's clumsy lyrics (which actually seem to strive at pretense, yet fall short anyhow), it's tedious and overly monotonous song structure and lack of anything original musically, there is some tremendous playing going on.
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Old 11-12-2003, 04:00 PM   #10 of 33
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Lyrics have never been anything I particularly care about with metal bands, DT included. Except for Scenes From a Memory, where it's a story, I hear it as just a vehicle for one of their instruments, the vocals.

However, when they talk about something direct or political, like The Great Debate and In the Name of God, it is a bit clumsy.

I've heard bands that sound like they're just soloing and competing with each other, but DT ain't it, which is why I like them.

Endless Sacrifice is my favorite so far, but that's after only one listen...