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Old 11-08-2003, 11:21 PM   #1 of 26
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dvd-audio is 96 khz, correct?


i bought a dvd-audio player yesterday and have hooked up the analog connections.

when i play a dvd-audio, and press multi channel on my reciever, the suuround sound is not as good as prologic II

i went into my dvd-audio player setup menu and have sellected multichannel.

but for some reason, multi channel on dvd-audio does not sound as good as PLII

i looked in my reciever manual and it says this:

IF 96 KHZ DIGITAL SIGNAL IS IMPUT, THE TONE, SOUND FIELD AND SURROUND PARAMETERS DO NOT FUNCTION

can someone explain that or give me advice.

thanks

player is panasonic f-85
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Old 11-09-2003, 01:07 AM   #2 of 26
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Jeremy: go buy Linkin Park's Reanimation dvd-audio and THEN you'll hear what dvd-audio is capable of.

Each surround music disc is mixed differently: some "gentle" & airy, and some in-your-face and moving all around the room, like that LP disc.

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Old 11-09-2003, 01:12 AM   #3 of 26
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I nominate Blue Man Group Audio as well



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Old 11-09-2003, 01:50 AM   #4 of 26
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Quote:
Jeremy: go buy Linkin Park's Reanimation dvd-audio and THEN you'll hear what dvd-audio is capable of


that is the one i picked up...........but i still think something is not right.
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Old 11-09-2003, 03:23 AM   #5 of 26
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if dvd-audio plays in 96khz, then how come when it is playing, it say 48?

this is pissing me off.
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Old 11-09-2003, 04:40 AM   #6 of 26
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not all DVD-A is 96kHz; the DVD-A standard is PCM at sampling rates of 44.1, 48.0, 88.2, 96.0, 176.4 and 192.0 kHz, with word lengths of 16, 20 or 24 bits. Unless the disc specifically states 96/24 I would imagine most 5.1 DVD-A is at 48/20(?) with hirez stereo at 192/24



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Old 11-09-2003, 04:56 AM   #7 of 26
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i have the linkin park dvd-audio playing right now, and if i press the audio button on my remote, it says this:

48k24b 6ch

now like you said, why would hirez stereo be higher?
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Old 11-09-2003, 07:33 AM   #8 of 26
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Jeremy

I don't have this disc, but you could try out the stereo layer instead of the m/c area and see what the resolution is

as to why.. my guess is they would have put 6ch of 192/24 if there was enough space on the disc.

post edit: I found this page that says the 2ch hirez is - even less than mc - 44k/24b. This is probably what you see printed on top at the back of the DVD-A package



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Old 11-09-2003, 08:15 AM   #9 of 26
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Jeremy,

Have you done level setting for the analog output of your Panasonic player? If you haven't you likely have channel imbalances that are causing some of your issues.

Also, if you truly are using the multi-channel analog output, this statement
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IF 96 KHZ DIGITAL SIGNAL IS IMPUT, THE TONE, SOUND FIELD AND SURROUND PARAMETERS DO NOT FUNCTION
is irrelevant, as you are working with an analog signal.

The reason for not providing these functions on 96K digital inputs, would be that there is insufficient DSP horsepower to perform the operations for that sampling rate.

BTW, there is no mandated sampling rate for DVD-Audio. For multi-channel material, the rates can be 44.1K, 48K, 88.2K and 96K. For stereo (or mono) material add 176.4K and 192K.

Delivered sampling rates can depend on existing master tapes. If digital, there is little benefit in modifying the original sampling rates. For analog, it will depend on the quality of those tapes, the mixing and mastering studios utilized and the discretion of the team responsible for the technical aspects of the recording.

Some of my better sounding DVD-A titles are delivered as "only" 48K sampling.

Cheers,



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Old 11-09-2003, 09:27 AM   #10 of 26
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Bass management, or lack thereof from your player would also be a contributor to perceived sound quality differences.

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