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Old 07-21-2003, 11:51 PM   #31 of 58
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Tell me, why does DVD-A need a hybrid? If they want DVD-A customers to have a CD copy then just place a CD with the DVD-A disc! I think most customers would rather have a separate disc for the car and the house. I see no advantage to having a side for CD and a side for DVD-A.


Dude, I'm not even being sarcastic here- that's f***ing brilliant.


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Old 07-22-2003, 12:05 AM   #32 of 58
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We'll just have to wait to find out the nature of the physical evidence. If it is merely the DNA proving Kobe had sexual relations with her, then obviously Kobe has de-fused that part of it by admitting to adultery and their case would boil down solely to a "he said/she said". If there are intrusion-type injuries, that's another can of worms.


Great observation and it would be very cheap. Most CD wholesale costs on bigsellers are well under a dollar, some even below $0.50.

Still, its nice to have one disc do both and that's where Super Audio comes in handy.




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Old 07-22-2003, 01:14 AM   #33 of 58
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We'll just have to wait to find out the nature of the physical evidence. If it is merely the DNA proving Kobe had sexual relations with her, then obviously Kobe has de-fused that part of it by admitting to adultery and their case would boil down solely to a "he said/she said". If there are intrusion-type injuries, that's another can of worms.


I think your reading too much out of my post!

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Old 07-22-2003, 12:32 PM   #34 of 58
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I say we drag Lee into the "testy" thead and make him talk......



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Old 07-22-2003, 01:13 PM   #35 of 58
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OOps! It seems I have co-mingled free CDs and a rape charge. Sorry

It still is a great observation, but I doubt it will be cheap for Kobe.




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Old 07-23-2003, 11:34 PM   #36 of 58
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According to Audio Revolution, Sony has strongly denied that there is an "SACD II" format. The quote there is: "Sony representatives strongly denies SACD II exists or is in development."


So maybe the SACD 2 thing is a big hoax.




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Old 07-24-2003, 01:30 AM   #37 of 58
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I hope it is a hoax.



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Old 07-24-2003, 08:54 AM   #38 of 58
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Hmmm...what might this mean?

1. Wide variety of "universal" players - hopefully good implementation of DSD and hirez PCM. Perhaps Sony and Philips start offering universal players as well...

2. More title selection as consumer may become indifferent to either format as long as they get good sound and can play both.

3. More production tools to do either in the recording studio as engineers see that both formats might survive.

4. Simultaneous releases in both formats.

5. Maybe the most important: Less confusion at the retailer level which means greater shelf/end cap space for hirez media and better selection of hirez capable DVD players.

I do not understand how creating a revised format by adding video content to SACD provides a catalyst for the above changes. Any of those items can be accomplished today -- they are business, not technology, issues.

Personally, SACDII holds no interest for me. All Sony/Philips can do is potentially force me out of the format altogether. If SACDII is more than a rumor and is 100% backward compatible, then I can continue to enjoy the format (I do not care about the video content at all -- if I want to watch video footage, I'll watch a DVD-Video concert). If there are compatibility issues, then I will no longer invest in the SACD format.

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Old 07-24-2003, 10:15 AM   #39 of 58
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I do not understand how creating a revised format by adding video content to SACD provides a catalyst for the above changes.


It's easy why this would happen - both formats may converge to offer the consumer the same set of features thereby increasing the likelihood that the hirez market becomes more "universal" with players that do well with either format. That also leads to more acceptance and less confusion at the retailer level, a key hurdle.

Here's some evidence that things are catching on:

Best Buy in Atlanta has really been pushing hirez. In my neighborhood store yesterday I saw two inch tall banners at the top of every music row saying to visit the Super Audio and DVD Audio section for the latest in digital audio. There were at least a couple dozen well-placed banners. That's going to capture a lot of eyeballs in the regular redbook bins. The SACD inventory is doing well too with Best Buy putting out most of the big hirez releases every Tuesday.





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Old 07-24-2003, 01:46 PM   #40 of 58
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Old 07-24-2003, 03:22 PM   #41 of 58
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As we never see sales results on non-Hybrid single layer SACD disc, we dont know the exact numbers, but they are probably very very miniscule.


Well I dont know the numbers, but as a non audiophile music fan, if they dont have multi channel or the disk is not hybrid I dont even consider it.
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