Forum NewsForumsHTF Chat Hardware ReviewsSoftware Reviews HTF Events
Home Theater Forum
Home Theater Forum
Home Theater Forum
Home Theater Forum
Live Search: 
Web Search: 
 
Home Theater Forum
Home Theater Forum
Home Theater Forum




 
Forum Jump

Forum Sponsors

Home Theater Forum > Entertainment and Media > Music
[ Super Audio CDs: Work on only certain players? ]

Post New Thread  Reply

 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Home Theater Forum
Old 04-06-2003, 03:45 PM   #1 of 12
Patrick McCart
Patrick J. McCart
Member
 
Location: Decatur, GA, USA
Join Date: May 2001
Local Time: 04:44 PM
Local Date: 11-18-2008
Posts: 7,519

Send a message via AIM to Patrick McCart Send a message via Yahoo to Patrick McCart Send a message via Skype™ to Patrick McCart
Super Audio CDs: Work on only certain players?


After hearing the news of Dark Side of the Moon coming to Super Audio CD, is it possible to play the 5.1 sound from a normal DVD player?

(Sorry if this is a dumb question...it probably is..)




Tell The Weinstein Company to release Richard Williams' animated masterpiece The Thief and the Cobbler on DVD in Panavision widescreen and uncut! See and hear what you're missing from their Bitsy Award winner of Worst Standard Edition DVD of 2006 on YouTube!
Patrick McCart is offline Quote this post in a PM Send Support Ticket
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
sendpm.gif
Home Theater Forum
Home Theater Forum
Home Theater Forum
Home Theater Forum
Old 04-06-2003, 04:00 PM   #2 of 12
Thomas Newton
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 1999
Local Time: 09:44 PM
Local Date: 11-18-2008
Posts: 1,645

A non-hybrid Super Audio CD will play only on a Super Audio CD player.

A hybrid Super Audio CD will theoretically play on both Super Audio CD players and CD players. Discrete 5.1 channel sound would be only on the SACD layer.

A non-SACD-capable DVD player or DVD-ROM drive might be able to play the regular stereo CD layer of a hybrid SACD. I say "might" because it's also possible that the SACD layer would fool the DVD player into thinking that it saw a defective DVD-Video or DVD-Audio layer, in which case the disc would not work at all.
Thomas Newton is offline Quote this post in a PM Send Support Ticket
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
sendpm.gif
Home Theater Forum
Home Theater Forum
Old 04-06-2003, 04:24 PM   #3 of 12
Michael St. Clair
Member
 
Join Date: May 1999
Local Time: 09:44 PM
Local Date: 11-18-2008
Posts: 8,065

Patrick,

It looks like there may be a possibility that a DVD-A of DSotM will come out in the next year of so. If so, then you would be able to listen in surround on your system. You may be part of a certain demographic that certain format-bashers believe should be ignored.



Michael St. Clair is offline Quote this post in a PM Send Support Ticket
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
sendpm.gif
Home Theater Forum
Home Theater Forum
Old 04-06-2003, 05:13 PM   #4 of 12
Patrick McCart
Patrick J. McCart
Member
 
Location: Decatur, GA, USA
Join Date: May 2001
Local Time: 04:44 PM
Local Date: 11-18-2008
Posts: 7,519

Send a message via AIM to Patrick McCart Send a message via Yahoo to Patrick McCart Send a message via Skype™ to Patrick McCart
Thanks...

I'm thinking of upgrading in the future to a prog. scan/DVD-A capable model, so I'll probably wait for that.

IMO, the digitally remastered CD sounds wonderful for the time being.




Tell The Weinstein Company to release Richard Williams' animated masterpiece The Thief and the Cobbler on DVD in Panavision widescreen and uncut! See and hear what you're missing from their Bitsy Award winner of Worst Standard Edition DVD of 2006 on YouTube!
Patrick McCart is offline Quote this post in a PM Send Support Ticket
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
sendpm.gif
Home Theater Forum
Home Theater Forum
Old 04-06-2003, 05:30 PM   #5 of 12
KeithH
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2000
Local Time: 04:44 PM
Local Date: 11-18-2008
Posts: 12,268

Patrick, just note that most DVD-Audio discs have a DVD-Video-compatible layer with Dolby Digital and/or DTS 5.1 tracks. So, if you have a DVD-Video player, you can access the Dolby Digital and DTS tracks, but not the DVD-Audio tracks.

Before getting a DVD-Audio player, you might want to consider a universal model (DVD player with SACD and DVD-Audio). You didn't state what you budget might be, but Pioneer will be releasing the DV-563A universal player for $270 later this year. Zenith will also be releasing the DV-318 universal model for $200 this year.



My:
Main Stereo and HT Systems ;
Second Stereo System ;
Equipment List ; DVDs, SACDs, and more ;
Planned Upgrades and Additions


\"You know, the tomato never took off as a handfruit.\"

- George Costanza
KeithH is offline Quote this post in a PM Send Support Ticket
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
sendpm.gif
Home Theater Forum
Home Theater Forum
HTF Ads



Sponsored links



Home Theater Forum
Home Theater Forum
Old 04-06-2003, 08:18 PM   #6 of 12
Philip Hamm
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 1999
Local Time: 04:44 PM
Local Date: 11-18-2008
Posts: 4,266

It's worth the wait to have both. Many of us have had two players for quite some time and it's kind of frustrating, but both formats are worth a whirl.



Philip Hamm
Moderator Emeritus
Philip Hamm is offline Quote this post in a PM Send Support Ticket
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
sendpm.gif
Home Theater Forum
Home Theater Forum
Old 04-06-2003, 10:12 PM   #7 of 12
KeithH
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2000
Local Time: 04:44 PM
Local Date: 11-18-2008
Posts: 12,268

Philip, I have no issues with owning separate components for DVD-Audio and SACD. Given that some of the universal components seem to be compromised, especially on SACD, I am very happy with the separates route. I also put less wear and tear on a component by having separates than if I had a universal machine.



My:
Main Stereo and HT Systems ;
Second Stereo System ;
Equipment List ; DVDs, SACDs, and more ;
Planned Upgrades and Additions


\"You know, the tomato never took off as a handfruit.\"

- George Costanza
KeithH is offline Quote this post in a PM Send Support Ticket
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
sendpm.gif
Home Theater Forum
Home Theater Forum
Old 04-06-2003, 11:39 PM   #8 of 12
RobBenton
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Local Time: 09:44 PM
Local Date: 11-18-2008
Posts: 161

The hassle is that very few recievers have 2 5.1 inputs for DVD-A and SACD so that you have to buy a switch and have a mess of cables and most of the switches are either manual (meaning you have to get up and switch them yourself) or they are expensive. I think a unversal player is a great idea and I may even get one myself so i can get rid of my two seperate players.
RobBenton is offline Quote this post in a PM Send Support Ticket
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
sendpm.gif
Home Theater Forum
Home Theater Forum
Old 04-07-2003, 07:09 AM   #9 of 12
KeithH
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2000
Local Time: 04:44 PM
Local Date: 11-18-2008
Posts: 12,268

Rob, that's a fair point, though I am using the inexpensive Radio Shack switch boxes ($30 for two) and modestly priced cables (Radio Shack gold for one and Monster Interlink 400mkII for the other) and don't mind the set-up. I think people make too much of a deal about the "rat's nest" or "mess" of cables. Yes, there is a cost involved, which is a bummer, but my cables are out of sight. No big deal for me.



My:
Main Stereo and HT Systems ;
Second Stereo System ;
Equipment List ; DVDs, SACDs, and more ;
Planned Upgrades and Additions


\"You know, the tomato never took off as a handfruit.\"

- George Costanza
KeithH is offline Quote this post in a PM Send Support Ticket
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
sendpm.gif
Home Theater Forum
Home Theater Forum
Old 04-07-2003, 08:53 AM   #10 of 12
Philip Hamm
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 1999
Local Time: 04:44 PM
Local Date: 11-18-2008
Posts: 4,266

What Keith said.



Philip Hamm
Moderator Emeritus
Philip Hamm is offline Quote this post in a PM Send Support Ticket
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
sendpm.gif
Home Theater Forum
Home Theater Forum
Old 04-08-2003, 02:09 PM   #11 of 12
Doug_B
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2001
Local Time: 05:44 PM
Local Date: 11-18-2008
Posts: 1,172

Quote:
I think people make too much of a deal about the "rat's nest" or "mess" of cables.
Agreed, until you need to unhook stuff when moving equipment around or adding a shelf. Maybe this happens more often than one would like .

But I did it anyway, thanks to Dark Side .

Doug