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04-05-2003, 11:53 PM
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Beatles: Pre-Rubber Soul
Can anyone help me out on Pre-1965 Beatles? I'd like to fill in my Beatles collection and could use some help deciphering their releases. I've looked at a couple discography sites and notice a lot of releases were duplicates of others and the U.K releases are different still.
I have no Beatles CDs at all before Rubber Soul except Help! What others do I need to to make a somewhat complete collection?
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04-06-2003, 12:20 AM
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You need the following:
Please Please Me
With The Beatles
A Hard Day's Night
Beatles For Sale
Past Masters, Vol. 1 (all their early singles)
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04-06-2003, 12:25 AM
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So, available CDs are the UK releases? That makes it easier. I suppose I should get both Past Masters CDs too.
I notice an album titled Live at the Hollywood Bowl. Is that on CD? what other CDs are there besides the major releases?
Thanks...
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04-06-2003, 12:33 AM
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Yes, definitely get 'Past Masters' - both volumes - since they contain songs - some of their best ones - not on the other CDs. Other than that, get the 4 that Peter listed.
I'm not certain but I think Hollywood Bowl was officially released on LP but not CD, though I suppose it's available on bootleg CDs.
The anthology CDs (there are 3 of them) are official and are worth it if you're more than a casual fan. I'd stay away from the various greatest hits CDs ("1" or the earlier "red" or "blue" CDs) since this will result in a lot of duplication of songs.
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04-06-2003, 12:33 AM
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Both Past Masters are definitely must haves. They include all their singles, some of their best known songs. "She Loves You", "I Want To Hold Your Hand" etc.
The Anthology series is also worth picking up, and "Live at the BBC".
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04-06-2003, 01:05 PM
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I'm not certain but I think Hollywood Bowl was officially released on LP but not CD, though I suppose it's available on bootleg CDs.
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This is correct. Official LP release in 1977 - my first-ever Beatles album at age 10! - but no official CD release ever. I think they only ever put out Hollywood Bowl because the unofficial Star Club recordings emerged and Capitol wanted to combat those with "real" product. I believe George Martin's always felt somewhat embarrassed with the quality of Hollywood Bowl and that's part of the reason the set never got a CD release. (Could be wrong - this is a vague memory about the lack of CD version...)
There are indeed plenty of boots of Hollywood Bowl, some with material not on the LP, I believe. I've heard some good things about them but haven't actually HEARD them myself...
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04-06-2003, 06:11 PM
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So, available CDs are the UK releases?
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Yup.
Sure does. You know, however, that when they re-release The Beatles' catalogue down the road on remastered SACD/DVD-A/whatever, they'll release both the American and UK releases just to suck more dollars out of the collectors' pockets, sorta like the Rolling Stones ABKCO catalogue.
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Yes sir. My personal fave Beatles song, "I Feel Fine" is on PM1. Plus German versions of "I Wanna Hold Your Hand" and "She Loves You" ( Komm, Gib Mir Deine Hand and Sie Liebt Dich)! |
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04-06-2003, 07:03 PM
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Be aware that the CD releases of the albums before "Help!" are monophonic and are also horrible sounding. They need not be, especially since those early albums came out as Stereo LPs.
Hopefully those albums will be re-released with higher fidelity. The Anthology DVD set has some of those early songs in great sonic shape.
Avoid the CD versions of those early albums. Or buy them and see what I mean.
-JNS
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04-06-2003, 10:05 PM
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You know, however, that when they re-release The Beatles' catalogue down the road on remastered SACD/DVD-A/whatever, they'll release both the American and UK releases just to suck more dollars out of the collectors' pockets, sorta like the Rolling Stones ABKCO catalogue.
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You state this as though it's fact, which it is not...
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04-06-2003, 10:59 PM
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You know, however, that when they re-release The Beatles' catalogue down the road on remastered SACD/DVD-A/whatever, they'll release both the American and UK releases
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I would doubt that, since they didn't do it the first time around. As I understand it, the Beatles hated the way Capitol released their albums in the US.
And for what it's worth, the early Beatles CDs don't sound horrible to me. Just my opinion... |
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04-06-2003, 11:45 PM
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Ok, they don't sound horrible, but they could and should and can sound better. It's especially a shame that A Hard Day's Night is currently issued in muddy mono when it sounds so much more vibrant in stereo.
Good thing I have the early ones in stereo, albeit recorded off of vinyl. I just hope that official re-releases come out soon.
-JNS
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