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Old 09-28-2001, 11:10 AM   #1 of 29
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"Toy Story 3" - A Battle Looming Between Pixar and Disney


Business Week reports on the upcoming film:
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Old 09-28-2001, 11:55 AM   #2 of 29
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This should be interesting. I'd expect Di$ney to be that greedy and say it doesn't count since Pixar is their big meal ticket anyway.

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Old 09-28-2001, 12:18 PM   #3 of 29
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You mean, "A Bug's Life" is part of the deal, but "Toy Story 2" isn't? It seems a bit odd to me. I would have thought it would have been part of the deal.

Disney's CG department was kinda a shot over the bow that Pixar and Disney might not be mated for life. It is still in the best interests of Disney to keep Pixar happy. While Dinosaur was technically fine, it was missing a lot of Pixar's magic.

It would be interesting to see who would distribute Pixar's films if their deal with Disney goes south. Dreamworks has a good relationship with PDI. Fox has their own internal CG department. WB maybe?

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Old 09-28-2001, 12:56 PM   #4 of 29
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Just because DreamWorks owns PDI and Fox has their own CG department doesn't mean they wouldn't get involved in a bidding war for Pixar's services a few years from now (along with Paramount, Warner/New Line, Universal, and maybe even MGM). Studios keep relationships with many different production companies, and a Pixar deal, what with Lasseter's contract, would be like landing Spielberg's exclusive services.

One other thing to consider, though, is that Pixar actually has no ownership stake in anything that appeared in the original Toy Story; Disney could theoretically make a movie with Buzz, Woody, Rex, and Hamm (though not Jessie or Bullseye) without Pixar's involvement.

As to the actual mechanics of the deal, the precedent seems to be in Disney's favor. But even considering the huge amount of money that stands to be made off TS3, I have to wonder whether it's worth driving Pixar and Lasseter to the competition.
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Old 09-28-2001, 01:13 PM   #5 of 29
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My first thought, after reading the intro paragraph, was please don't let them screw up Toy Story 3! Toy Story is great. Toy Story 2 is brilliant. I can only hope they *don't* do a Toy Story 3 unless it is sublime. (And a half-baked TS3 direct-to-video would be animated blasphemy!)
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Old 09-28-2001, 02:13 PM   #6 of 29
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I would love to see Pixar team up with Dreamworks/PDI and kick the little mou$e'$ butt. Dreamworks is already a major force for Disney to contend with.

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Old 09-28-2001, 02:35 PM   #7 of 29
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As much as I would like to see at Toy Story 3, I also like the idea of not doing it if not all the original cast members are in, and as you know Jim Varney past away last year from lung cancer. And I think it's really disrespectful to have an other actor taking his place as Slinky Dog. That leaves only the option of not having Slinky Dog in the movie at all which would also be a major bummer.

How about making Toy Story 2 the last one?

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Old 09-28-2001, 03:55 PM   #8 of 29
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How about making Toy Story 2 the last one?

yeah...that'll happen.

tell me, for a second, that you believe that either studio is willing to forego a 200 million dollar opportunity?

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Old 09-28-2001, 10:38 PM   #9 of 29
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Their argument that TS3 shouldn't count against the deal "because it's a sequel to a film that was being made while the second deal was being negotiated..." is simple lunacy.

C'mon guys. There will be enough money to go around. Just make sure if you're going to do a third one...

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Old 09-28-2001, 11:05 PM   #10 of 29
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It's not disrespecfull to use somebody else's voice for Slinky because Jim Varney died. If so, we'd no longer be seeing or hearing Kermit The Frog. Same thing with Bugs Bunny, Mickey Mouse and other cartoon characters whom have had different people do the voices through the years.




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Old 09-28-2001, 11:31 PM   #11 of 29
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Somehow I knew that people would defend Pixar before they defended Disney. Oh well, it doesn't matter to me. However, Pixar, as good as they are, is no Disney. Yes, Pixar is very good. But Disney was turning out classics decades before Pixar even existed. If they split, Disney, who does traditional animation better than anyone, will have no trouble competing. They also can do unbelievable CGI. The name Disney sells movies. The name Disney was more responsible for selling those Pixar movies than the Pixar name was. However, I'd like to see them stay together. They are both so good together. That magic might not be there with another company.

I hate Steven Jobs. It's seems he and his big head is butting in where he doesn't belong. This man knows nothing about making movies and the movie industry, so he should shut up and sit down. Let them work it out.

And when it comes to a bidding war, Dreamworks, another company I love, has absolutely no chance to out bid Disney if they really want Pixar. I hope they stay together. This is all my opinion, of course, and I love Disney. What can I say?
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