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Old 11-01-2001, 07:19 AM   #1 of 123
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EPISODE 2 TRAILER:
I know it's only a teaser, but all this hype
for virtually nothing. It's a 1-minute teaser
that's over before you blink.

There's no music. No dialogue. There are
about a dozen 1-second glimpses at bits and
pieces of things that will make you ooh and
ahh, but when it's all over you wonder what
you just missed.

Monsters Inc. will disappoint many
Pixar fans. The animation is stellar, but
it's a kiddie movie. The film lacks any of the
charm that Toy Story 1&2 had. Jokes fall
flat very quickly, and I think many of us only
briefly chuckled at a few of the gags. There are
no adult jokes here, and the middle section of
the film gets a bit weighed down.

If you are not interested in spending $7-$10
to see the eye-blink EPISODE 2 trailer, you may
wish to wait for DVD until you see Monsters Inc..

PS: It's a shame that Lucasfilm screwed Fox
by putting this trailer on a Disney film.

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Old 11-01-2001, 07:22 AM   #2 of 123
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Ouch!

Double bummer as I had looked forward to seeing both.

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Old 11-01-2001, 08:12 AM   #3 of 123
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PS: It's a shame that Lucasfilm screwed Fox
by putting this trailer on a Disney film.

I think they only put the trailer on a Disney film, for:
1) Monsters, Inc. will be the biggest film this weekend.
2) No FOX films are opening this weekend (other then a sneek peek of Shallow Hal).

Also, if all rumors are true, the "big" teaser will open up with Harry Potter... which is a Warner Bros. film, not a FOX film (and Lucasfilm knows that Harry might end up being the biggest film of 2001).

What would you rather do if you worked for Lucasfilm? Put the trailer in front of a FOX film that COULD do good business, or put the trailer in front of another studio's film that WILL do good business?

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Old 11-01-2001, 08:44 AM   #4 of 123
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PS: It's a shame that Lucasfilm screwed Fox by putting this trailer on a Disney film.
Well, let's look at what the options from Fox were:

Waking Life (opened October 12, expanded last week, expanding wider November) - not wide release, rated R, and completely different in tone from the Star Wars movies. Not the greatest candidate.

Shallow Hal (opens November 16) - Hmm. I honestly don't know why this didn't have the trailer. I think, though, that its release date was moved up, and it is opening the same weekend as Harry Potter.

Black Knight (Opens November 21) - Be honest: Would you want the trailer for your movie to potentially boost this apparent turd's box office? (When my brother and I went to see O, there were trailers for this, How High, Two Can Play That Game and Bones back-to-back. If I were black, that would be cause to go to Hollywood with the same attitude generally reserved for villagers approaching Frankenstein's castle. But I digress)

Super Troopers (Opens November 30) - Limited release.

Truth be told, I'm surprised there's nothing on Shallow Hal, although a teaser/trailer may be attached. Of course, it's not too surprising when you consider that the Star Wars features, except for the first, aren't really Fox movies - they're independent films that Fox has had a distribution agreement for.
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Old 11-01-2001, 09:05 AM   #5 of 123
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PS: It's a shame that Lucasfilm screwed Fox by putting this trailer on a Disney film.


I don't think he's screwing over anyone, Fox is not financing EpII, only distributing. The more exposure EpII gets the BETTER for Fox come release time.

I was also under the impression that this WAS a KIDS movie.



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Old 11-01-2001, 09:07 AM   #6 of 123
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Thanks for the heads up. I'll wait and download the trailers from the exclusive website, and I'll probably buy Monsters Inc on DVD for the kiddies when it comes out.

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Old 11-01-2001, 09:29 AM   #7 of 123
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OK folks, now remember: This is only one person's opinion. Every other review I have read of MONSTERS, INC. has been very good to excellent. I'm not saying that Ron is wrong in his opinion; he's perfectly entitled to it. I'm just saying that I think it's a bit silly to read one, very brief, review and throw up your hands. Let's face it, even if MONSTERS, INC. isn't the best film ever to come out of Pixar, I guarantee you that it will be miles ahead of the majority of films that have been released this year. I mean, come on! This forum is full of people who bought BATTLEFIELD EARTH when it came out. I, for one, will be there on Friday and I'm sure I'll thoroughly enjoy the film and the short STAR WARS (STAR WARS, durn ya! STAR FREAKIN' WARS) teaser.
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Old 11-01-2001, 09:44 AM   #8 of 123
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Of course it is a kiddie movie....isn't that what it is supposed to be?
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Old 11-01-2001, 09:49 AM   #9 of 123
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: It's a shame that Lucasfilm screwed Fox
by putting this trailer on a Disney film.

I'm not sure where the bias is coming from but, I don't think anyone is screwing anyone by putting a teaser trailer at the beginning of a movie. The studios have a business to run and if one (or more) makes the determination that they can benefit from one another's 'services', then so be it.

I'm totally disappointed at your quasi-review of this movie Ron. Not only do you not include any details or supporting evidence for your claim, but you basically lump this movie in with a 'studio' and try to unfairly compare it with other works produced by this studio. This movie should be based soley on it's own merit, just like any other new movie that comes out. I did note that you mentioned "brief notes" in the heading, but to totally trash a movie in one sentence and advise people not to waste their $7-10 and get the DVD, hmmm.

I think we are losing sight of the audience here, Pixar produces children's movies for Disney (which mostly produces movies for children also). Children aren't fans of 'Pixar' like you state in your quasi-review, they are fans of good, entertaining stories, fun and lovable characters, which I'm sure Monster's Inc will provide. The real fans of Pixar are adults and if the "animation is stellar..." and the story is sufficient enough to entertain the kids, then the fans of Pixar should be pleased as well.

When I take my six year old daughter to see a children's movie, if I get a chuckle, laugh or good time from it as well then great, but I don't go in with the expectation that this movie is supposed to appeal to everyone.

The HTF has gotten a lot attention in the past few months with mentions in major areas like magazine, TV and other popular web sites. We have great support from a lot of major studios and I don't think it fair to our members and the tons of visitors we get if are showing too much of a bias towards one studio or another. My understanding of the forum was always one of fairness, in any area.

You are beginning to hold a lot of weight and credibility in the world of DVD and movies based on this sight, I hope that nothing's changed and the same ol', fair, unbiased, Ron that I have come to know, hasn't changed.

Monster's Inc. is for the kids, let's not forget that.

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