Donnie Darko...a very strange movie - Page 10

Bryant Trew · 01-16-2003, 08:30 PM

You know, if you are going to make a trashing of a movie like Pi, at least try to do a decent job of it.

Terry St · 01-17-2003, 01:01 AM

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You know, if you are going to make a trashing of a movie like Pi, at least try to do a decent job of it.

Bleh. I know I shouldn't even respond, but this thread could probably use a little spice on page 10.

I didn't trash Pi. In my opinion it had great acting, captivating form, catchy music, and superb visual style. I enjoyed it immensely and said as much. However, you cannot deny the fact that it makes a lot of stupid plot and pseudo-science mistakes. (Please correct the points in my last post if any are wrong.) A lot of good films are riddled with stupid errors though.

Donnie Darko, on the other hand, tackled rather ambitous ground but managed to keep me fooled. There were very few (if any) places where I spotted an undisputable error. Most every inconsistancy could be argued over and twisted around in several different ways.

Anyways, both are fun films, but very different. I've already shown DD to my movie group (they loved it), and I'll probably push Pi at somepoint too.

Bryant Trew · 01-17-2003, 06:21 AM

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However, you cannot deny the fact that it makes a lot of stupid plot and pseudo-science mistakes. (Please correct the points in my last post if any are wrong.) A lot of good films are riddled with stupid errors though.

Donnie Darko, on the other hand, tackled rather ambitous ground but managed to keep me fooled. There were very few (if any) places where I spotted an undisputable error. Most every inconsistancy could be argued over and twisted around in several different ways.

Both films are fictional. Just because one doesn't conform to your present knowledge (Computers), while the other one conforms to its own made up BS rules (time portals), doesn't make one any more sensical than the other. As a matter of fact, DD's director incorrectly explained his own movie (car beep at the end of the film that actually happened in the beginning too). Anyways, I love DD, despite people needing to read a freakin' manual to actually get it (big flaw here folks!). Pi on the other hand made a whole lot more sense, had more challenging concepts to deal with and did a far better job of presenting its concepts.

No I'm not going to debate this either. I'd much rather spend my time watching the film again.

Terry St · 01-17-2003, 10:04 AM

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Just because one doesn't conform to your present knowledge (Computers), while the other one conforms to its own made up BS rules (time portals), doesn't make one any more sensical than the other.

I can concede that if you have two films that are equally stupid in different areas, only one of which you have some knowledge about, then the one that errors within your own ballywick is going to seem dumber. That might be the case here.

So are there any temporal physics buffs (or whatever the heck you call them) out there who can give us the lowdown on the science in DD? Is it anywhere close to scientific possibility, total fantasy, or just plain false?

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Pi on the other hand made a whole lot more sense, had more challenging concepts to deal with and did a far better job of presenting its concepts.

This will definately depend on your background. It will not be true for all viewers, which is why you may see opinions a bit split on this.

Bryant Trew · 01-17-2003, 07:13 PM

They are both science fiction, and conform to their own rules. In the world of Pi, a Ming Mecca Chip only has four transistors, if that's what they were. But who cares? The point was that it was a super chip - that's all you need to know about. You go into these movies looking for the meaning of life and you can lose yourself - HA that was an actual lesson from Pi, so I just created something of a paradox

Jon W H · 01-17-2003, 09:49 PM

Stephen Hawking has discussed his theories on wormholes extensively, so I don't view "time portals" as being far-fetched.

Leif Wall · 01-17-2003, 10:10 PM

Some of you need to lighten up and maybe re-devote yourselves to Sparkle Motion.

Zane Charron · 01-18-2003, 06:13 AM

Yeah, I'm really beginning to doubt your committment to Sparkle Motion.

Paul_D · 01-18-2003, 07:21 AM

Pi=inappropriate discussion topic for this thread.

BertFalasco · 01-18-2003, 09:36 AM

I am going to buy DD today, you all have me interested.

I agree with Terry about Pi. Although I love the movie and praise Darren A. movies, it in itself was silly, and unrealistic. It was damn entertaining though, got to love soundtracks to both, Clint Mansell, Aphex Twins, etc. superb..

-Bert

Rob Cunningham · 01-28-2003, 11:52 AM

I just got DD on DVD, and watched it once last night. I immediately went to this thread and have read many of the posts. What a stimulating movie, I plan to watch it a couple more times. Once with the directory commentary on for sure. Maybe I can get my g/f to sit through it too.

Btw, does anyone know the name of the song that plays in the final scenes of the movie?