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Old 10-13-2002, 05:45 PM   #61 of 104
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I read this entire thread, and numerous times the question "Was the chair there when she returned?" remained unanswered. Well, it was indeed laying behind her on the floor of the capsule.
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Old 10-13-2002, 07:57 PM   #62 of 104
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Well, it was indeed laying behind her on the floor of the capsule


yep...and of course, the magnetic field wore off after the capsule hit the water so one could argue that the chair detached from the ceiling and fell behind her.

Here is another thought provoking idea: Upon closer inspection of the trasport scene, there are frames that show the spinning rings as scene from near the center of the sphere. To the keenest observer, one could probably predict that the sphere would fall straight through.
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Old 10-13-2002, 08:17 PM   #63 of 104
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Ellie's father in the form of a Vegan when asked who did it said "no one knows, they got here before us...maybe they will return someday." This shows that there is a grand creator

First, the ones the sent the message were not Vegans per se, although that is a handy way to refer to them. The beacon was at Vega -- she saw it part way through the trip -- but she went quite a few other places. Odds are they are not at a "local" system like Vega.

Second, the fact that there are "ancients" that built the system before and left does not necessarily mean that they are "the" or "a" grand creator. Imagine if humanity were to progress to the point where we could build a system like that; we do and then we "leave", maybe to answer that same question, "Is that all there is, is there nothing more?" Two generations of sentients later, some primitive race is thinking we're the grand creator. We would have created the system, but we're (obviously) not God in the common sense.

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Old 10-14-2002, 07:57 AM   #64 of 104
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I had assumed that everything she saw on the beach, including her father and...the beach, were communicated directly to her mind.
This is a bit off discussion on the original topic, but has anyone else ever noticed that the beach that Ellie sees on her journey looks exactly like the drawing of her interpretation of Pensicola, FL at the beginning of the movie?
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Old 10-14-2002, 08:01 AM   #65 of 104
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the beach that Ellie sees on her journey looks exactly like the drawing of her interpretation of Pensicola, FL at the beginning of the movie?


I sure hope so...that's the dead giveaway that it's a recreation.
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Old 10-14-2002, 09:11 AM   #66 of 104
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This is a bit off discussion on the original topic, but has anyone else ever noticed that the beach that Ellie sees on her journey looks exactly like the drawing of her interpretation of Pensicola, FL at the beginning of the movie?

that's because they chose a safe, familiar place from her memories to recreate as a meeting place.
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Old 10-14-2002, 11:49 AM   #67 of 104
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Second, the fact that there are "ancients" that built the system before and left does not necessarily mean that they are "the" or "a" grand creator. Imagine if humanity were to progress to the point where we could build a system like that; we do and then we "leave", maybe to answer that same question, "Is that all there is, is there nothing more?" Two generations of sentients later, some primitive race is thinking we're the grand creator. We would have created the system, but we're (obviously) not God in the common sense

One of the corner stones of the fabulous Sci-Fi series Babylon 5.

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Old 10-14-2002, 01:51 PM   #68 of 104
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Second, the fact that there are "ancients" that built the system before and left does not necessarily mean that they are "the" or "a" grand creator. Imagine if humanity were to progress to the point where we could build a system like that; we do and then we "leave", maybe to answer that same question, "Is that all there is, is there nothing more?" Two generations of sentients later, some primitive race is thinking we're the grand creator. We would have created the system, but we're (obviously) not God in the common sense
Or imagine we get to a point capable of creating intelligent beings. Do we really have the right to judge or punish them or ask them to do everything that we say! I think Contact is a great movie with vast ideas! It presents different ideas and never means anything for sure, like recognizing or not recognizing God. Like all the great movies it poses the questions, there is no definite answer!
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Old 10-14-2002, 05:03 PM   #69 of 104
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This is a very cool topic!
I never percieved the transport system as being made by a God or grand creator. Just another step up to another even more evolved set of beings/race/people/whatever. Gives the trip she made a nice angle that it's only 1 step up and there are many more.
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Old 06-16-2003, 12:42 AM   #70 of 104
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While true that compasses "react" to magnetic fields (they don't really measure anything) they are not magnetic in and of themselves
bringing threads back from the dead, only to comment on something other than its intended discussion anyway, in its most primitive form, a compass only reacts to magnetic fields. but once you apply the north south east and west markings to it, it becomes a measuring tool, and 'measures' direction. another example is a mercury thermometer. without the markings along the side, the mercury will react to heat, then will move through the glass tube towards the top. once you apply the markings along the side, it becomes a thermometer, and then is able to measure heat. just thought i would add that, i'm not really sure how i found this thread, 8 months after it was last posted to...

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Old 06-18-2003, 06:30 PM   #71 of 104
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Christ, were you looking for movies portraying or featuring compasses, and stumbled upon this thread?

I am currently reading William Poundstone's biography on Carl Sagan. It spends several pages discussing the early adaptations for the movie, but I haven't finished that section yet.

Sagan and his wife Ann Druyen were heavily involved with the movie, and I hope to post what tidbits I find from the book.



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Old 06-18-2003, 07:31 PM   #72 of 104
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