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Old 02-17-2002, 04:18 PM   #1 of 220
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Why do so many people dislike Gladiator?


Just curious...I thought it was a great film in the tradition of the old hollywood epics like Spartacus, Ben-Hur, El Cid and Fall of the Roman Empire.

I saw it for the first time just a few weeks ago and since that time, I've been watching it again and again...I see in some of the other threads that people rip it as an unworthy oscar winner, but it was very deserving IMHO. Great action and acting and directing...and great FX.

So what gives?? Why is it suddenly unpopular??



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Old 02-17-2002, 04:23 PM   #2 of 220
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I enjoyed it as what it was... a large 150 minute popcorn movie. Nothing more, nothing less.

Did it deserve the best picture win? No, as there were more films out there that deserved it more like Almost Famous, Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon, Requiem for a Dream, Unbreakable, or You Can Count On Me (just to name a few).


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Old 02-17-2002, 04:26 PM   #3 of 220
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Here's a very well written critique of the film that eloquently expresses why some people (including me) didn't think that highly of it:

http://www.dvdtalk.com/dvdsavant/s119gladiateher.html
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Old 02-17-2002, 04:42 PM   #4 of 220
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Matthew,

Unbreakable as an Oscar worthy movie?
You've got to be kidding right?

Also, what's with Kate Hudson getting Oscar consideration, when Patrick Fugit was the true star of this movie. I don't understand why a pretty face is all you need to get a golden globe and Oscar mention. Noone can convince me that William Miller was not the main character and carried this movie.

Gladiator was very entertaining. Isn't that enough to win Best Picture?
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Old 02-17-2002, 04:49 PM   #5 of 220
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Noone can convince me that William Miller was not the main character and carried this movie.

I don't believe that has anything to do with the requirements for an Academy Award.

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Gladiator was very entertaining. Isn't that enough to win Best Picture?

Yes, it was enough to win Best Picture. Does that make it a great movie? Not in my book. My cats are entertaining too. I wouldn't expect someone to present them with an award.
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Old 02-17-2002, 04:56 PM   #6 of 220
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Well, its all in what you consider to be great...great is subjective just like MVP in baseball is very subjective...its damn near impossible to set standards on sujects such as these.

I suppose we will just have wait and see how Gladiator stands the test of time



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Old 02-17-2002, 05:00 PM   #7 of 220
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Unbreakable as an Oscar worthy movie?
You've got to be kidding right?

Yes and just for the reason it was light years better than Gladiator.

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I suppose we will just have wait and see how Gladiator stands the test of time


In a few years it'll be forgotten just like most big blockbuster popcorn movies (like ID4).


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Old 02-17-2002, 05:03 PM   #8 of 220
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Personally, I thought Patrick Fugit was pretty horrid in Almost Famous.

As for Gladiator, I agree, it was a good popcorn film, but not deserving of the more important films that year (of the nominated films CTHD or Traffic would have been better winners).

I thought it would have been interesting if Amores Perros took best foreign film that year, and Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon took best picture.
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Old 02-17-2002, 05:44 PM   #9 of 220
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I found Gladiator to be an entertaining enough romp but I was let down by what I felt to be the placing of style before content, something I've honestly felt with most of Ridley Scott's films.

I've always felt on a technical level the man is a genius, but when it comes to my want for more three dimensional characters and perfomances from his casts I am often let down, and indded Gladiator was no exception.

My friend, who loved the movie, nevertheless shared my surprise when Crowe got best actor for the Maximus role ("he basically grunted his way though the movie" my friend said, which makes me chuckle to this day). Indeed, good enough as the performance is, given the rather shallow screenplay, it is Crowe's worst role. He is an absolutely excellent actor and the Academy had two great chances to give him a golden statue prior to last year.

I lost slight admiration for Scott in his visual approach to Gladiator. For me, the mass of (at times, questionable) CGI and digital matte paintings along with various aspects of the editing threw me out of the movie now and again. Hans Zimmer's overly synthesized score didn't help matters.

I've no idea if seeing Spartacus in 70mm when I was nine years old had anything to do with my feelings toward how I ultimately took to Gladiator. A lot of people claim the latter as epic, well, fair enough, but in my mind it remains spectacle and little more. Gladiator had exceptional talent behind it in many areas, had the script been stronger, more original and emotional such talent could have been put to greater use.

I do enjoy the movie, it's good entertainment and a mighty fine DVD.

Dan (UK)
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