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12-29-2001, 06:08 PM
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It's true that a movie shot Super35 will have less resolution than one shot anamorphic. But DVD has MUCH less resolution than either film format. The puny resolution of a DVD can't capture the full resolution of film, even Super35. Wouldn't the extra resolution of an anamorphic film just be lost once you "shrunk" it down for DVD anyway?
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In the computer world, there's a term GIGO for Garbage in, garbage out. If you start with more information, the end result will be far superior. Look at discs mastered from LD transfers and compare that to the High-def DVD masters. Noticeable right? With enough time, money and processing spent, Super35 transfers can look pretty darn good on DVD (Rock, Se7en) but the majority do NOT look comparable to comparable anamorphic transfers.
Look at Blade, and compare it to "The Matrix". Both films are heavily processed. Which looks sharper? Deeper blacks? More detail? It's Blade |
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12-30-2001, 02:43 AM
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Now I gotta go out and buy American Pop. So far this month, I've watched Fritz the Cat and LOTR, and it still ain't enough. Besides Pop, the only other Bakshi out there on dvd is Heavy Traffic, and I hear it's pan and scan... boo! hiss!! And if they come out with Wizards soon, I'm gonna go postal!
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I believe Heavy Traffic is open matte rather than P&S, but I'm not 100% sure as I never saw it theatrically.
American Pop is terrific with lots of kick-ass rotoscoping!!!
The opening pogrom scene looks fantastic!
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12-30-2001, 11:26 PM
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I actually like the look of the Bakshi film. It gives it a "pop art" look and is very unique. I can think of no other film that resembles it. Also, it's not "lazy". In interviews with Bakshi, he says they cut his budget way down after he had already started, forcing him to take shortcuts and not finish things the way he wanted to. He fully intended to completely animate the entire film.
As to the use of Super35. It's already been stated that with the forced perspective shots that fill the picture, 'scope lenses would not have worked. 'Scope lenses introduce a distortion that would have made the trick photography in this film quite impossible.
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11-30-2002, 05:02 PM
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If I watch Ralph Bakshi's version will it spoil the next two Rings movies, or does it just focus on FOTR?
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11-30-2002, 06:05 PM
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If I watch Ralph Bakshi's version will it spoil the next two Rings movies
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It's the entire story; however, the movie itself is already spoiled. Do yourself a favor and read the books instead. Bakshi's version is simply horrendous and impossible to watch IMHO. |
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11-30-2002, 06:15 PM
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It's not the entire story. It goes about as far as the end of the battle of Helm's Deep from The Two Towers.
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11-30-2002, 07:09 PM
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How far into the book The Two Towers is the Battle of Helm's Deep?
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11-30-2002, 07:39 PM
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Helm's Deep occurs before the halfway point in the book, but the book doesn't cut back and forth between the two major plotlines like the Peter Jackson movie does. So chronologically, and in the Jackson movie, Helm's Deep takes place close to the end of TTT.
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11-30-2002, 11:17 PM
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Bakshi, Bakshi, Bakshi... What can I say about this film?
Well, as a kid, I ADORED it. I still have the photonovel as well  As an adult who has seen PJ's version... Well, I still like Bakshi's film, but it feels... Wrong in parts. Line delivery is average, music is sub-par, and while the rotoscoping gives it that distinct Bakshi feel (a good thing, btw), the fact that some scenes feature segements of colored live action footage, rather than full rotoscoped work, makes it feel cheap. Look at Merry and Pippin fighting the Orcs, for example. It's mostly touched-up live footage. It's as if someone cut off funding for the picture towards the end. The background characters in Bree are pretty lame, as well.
That said, I still find it likable, and PJ must agree with me, since he paid homage to a couple of Bakshi's shots:
The shot of the Ring "abandoning Gollum" is pretty much identical in both versions, as is the shot of old man Proudfoot (Proudfeet!) at the Party.
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11-30-2002, 11:43 PM
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I've always liked Bakshi's LOTR, as incomplete and as flawed as it is. Personally, back then I didn't know any better. It also got me to read the books, which probably wouldn't have happened any other way. Personally, the strength of this film is where Jackson's film is the weakest: going from Hobbiton to Rivendell. I also liked the way the Balrog was handled in that film as well.
For years, it was the only visual version that I had a reference to, and I still think it was a pretty good effort.
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