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12-04-2003, 02:11 PM
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And just where is this "early word" coming from?
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12-04-2003, 02:38 PM
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Internet Rumors: Written, produced and directed by jaded, angry fanboys  That's where the "early word" is coming from.
I've been looking around and have yet to hear anywhere that they're cutting out any Christian subtext. Seeing as the entire set of novels is so incredibly allegorical, especially "Lion, Witch..." that I don't think it'd even be possible. And I can't imagine the screenwriter cutting out the subtext anyway--she's famous for adapting "A Lesson before Dying" for God's sake--the main character is a PRIEST or something similar, right? The whole movie was about redemption and God's ability to forgive, regardless. Why hire this lady, with that track record, to just cut out any reference to God in these children's books that rely on the religious allegory in almost every aspect of it's storytelling?
There is no reason. Because it's more than likely not happening.
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12-04-2003, 02:39 PM
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Good point, Robert. We shouldn't jump to conclusions.
ASSUMING this is true, then my original statement stands.
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12-04-2003, 03:24 PM
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| the other question is then whether they'll be made in chronological order, or made in the order of publishing ( a dilemma that I didnt' even know existed until I was surfing--I thought they WERE published in chronological order, I didn't know Lewis jumped around the timeline when writing the 7 part story). |
Yes, when I was a kid reading these, they were numbered in the published order, with The Lion, The Witch, and the Wardrobe first. I still believe this is a better order to read them in, and I'm annoyed by the fact that they're now numbered in chronological order.
--Matthew
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12-04-2003, 03:39 PM
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I read them in published order too. Had a paperback box set with Lion, Witch... first. Didn't know it had changed. I want to buy new copies too. Hmmmmm.
Stephen
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12-04-2003, 03:53 PM
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I am such a Friend of Narnia, I could eat my own face!! 
I love the books to death, read and re-read them as a kid until my eyes almost fell out. Last year I re-purchased all of them and read them cover to cover, the first time in about 20 years. They are still beautiful, moving works (although Susan still got screwed...)
That having been said, I think some of them will make for questionable movies. The Magicians Nephew (my favorite after LW&W) is such a blatant Creation allegory that even the most devout theologians would snicker. The same goes with The Last Battle and the Book of Revelations. On the other hand, LW&W, A Horse and His Boy, Prince Caspian, and Dawn Treader would be OK. (Silver Chair -- ehh.)
The talk of excising the Christian references has been nothing but talk at this point. About two-three years ago, the publisher was interested in making "Further Tales of Narnia" (obvious pre-The Last Battle) but with a deeper emphasis on plot and fantasy and less outright Christian allegory. A stupid idea, IMHO, and I don't know how the CS Lewis estate feels about that, but perhaps rumor-mongerers are thinking of this when they report that the films will be Christ-Free by 2003.
Whenever the laws of any state are broken, a duly authorized organization swings into action. It may be the called the State Police, State Troopers, Militia, the Rangers, or the Highway Patrol THE CITIZENS AUXILIARY POLICE!!! These are the stories of the men whose training, skill, and courage, have enforced and preserved our state laws.
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12-04-2003, 05:19 PM
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And surely they're not that preachy. You can enjoy the stories as good stories without being bothered by Christian similarities or subtext.
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my thoughts exactly.
heck, with a movie like this, i think you could get away with simply calling it a fantasy. there would be enough "magical" stuff to easily cover any blatant religious references (which would probably never come to light anyway)...
heck, take a look at lotr or harry potter. while they're obviously not religious in nature, one could argue the whole good vs. evil thing. aren't there even some groups that don't like hp because of the whole magic thing?
you're not gonna be able to please everyone. all the studio has to do is "tone it down" ... and i'm pretty confident it'll pass muster on it's other merits - great story and characters.
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12-04-2003, 06:47 PM
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I've read the books and watched the teleision miniseries and I have the following fears for a theatrical release:
1. Talking lion. I do not think that studios are capable of making talking lions that give the illusion of reality. i am prepared for a bad CG day. (Animatronics aren't "cool" for most of todays movies, y'ah know).
2. How do they expect to grow a lamppost in time to start shooting?
3.I vaguely recall that in one of the books a sword-fight took place that made note that movies could never realistically depict such a fight. This should make for interesting film-making.
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12-05-2003, 06:31 PM
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1. Talking lion. I do not think that studios are capable of making talking lions that give the illusion of reality.
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Babe looked fine quite a few years ago. Doubt this would be a problem.
If you try to release the movies chronolically, you're left with an openign that's quite different from and only loosely connected to the rest of the books (The Magician's Nephew) and what would you do with A Horse and His Boy, which takes place during The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe?
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12-13-2004, 10:04 PM
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Narnia effects footage
I saw this over at AICN and thought some of you might enjoy:
http://www.aint-it-cool-news.com/display.cgi?id=18980
Looks promising!
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12-13-2004, 11:58 PM
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It's not obviously titled, but there's already a Narnia thread going on:
http://www.hometheaterforum.com/htfo...hreadid=214957
Perhaps an Official Narnia thread should be made for all the news bits.
Thanks for the link, too. I'm looking forward to the movie.
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12-14-2004, 12:33 AM
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