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05-12-2008, 03:23 PM
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Re: *** Official IRON MAN Discussion Thread
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The blockbuster mentality that has infected Hollywood for decades now is really getting sickening. I do not see why these two films have to be direct competitors. I mean do movie audiences only have enough money to see one film a month or something? I went to both films mentioned in the article and both films succeed in their primary function which is to entertain.
Iron man is a good entertaining film with a major weakness that internally made me laugh. Speed Racer is a good entertaining film with some dialogue and a ridiculous name convention -inspector detector- that outwardly had me laughing.
All things being equal there is one area where Speed Racer outshines Iron man and that is in sheer visual creativity. The action scenes in IM are staidly conservative and boringly constructed compared to the kinetic, imaginative action scenes in SR. In that respect SR completely destroys IM.
That being said, however, I do not see why one film has to be the "winner" and the other the "loser". Surely, there is enough entertainment dollars available to support both productions. The whole mentality of "the only day that matters is opening day" just seems to result in a lot of good films not getting their due.
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05-12-2008, 03:43 PM
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Re: *** Official IRON MAN Discussion Thread
Just read about a deleted scene that will be included in the dvd. It shows Stark wearing the Mark 1.5 suit...

Bring back John Doe! Or at least resolve the cliff-hanger with a 2hr movie or as an extra on a dvd release.
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05-12-2008, 07:44 PM
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Re: *** Official IRON MAN Discussion Thread
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do not see why these two films have to be direct competitors. I mean do movie audiences only have enough money to see one film a month or something?
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Going to the movies isn't all that cheap, what with driving, parking, concessions, etc. And it isn't just about being on a money budget. It's also about time. You pick and choose what you'll see on a given weekend.
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05-12-2008, 07:56 PM
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Re: *** Official IRON MAN Discussion Thread
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Going to the movies isn't all that cheap, what with driving, parking, concessions, etc. And it isn't just about being on a money budget. It's also about time. You pick and choose what you'll see on a given weekend.
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Sadly, I generally choose to see them all, or as many as I can fit in.... 
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05-12-2008, 07:56 PM
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Re: *** Official IRON MAN Discussion Thread
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I mean do movie audiences only have enough money to see one film a month or something?
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Money is the #2 reason why I don't see movies in the theater much at all anymore (#1 being rude audiences and poorly run theaters). It just cost too much to take the family to a movie, much more then just buying or renting the BD/DVD. I only go to about one movie or less a month, most movies Hollywood lets out the gate just don't look worth the money, time and effort to go to the theater (especially when you know it will be on video in a few months).
Frankly, IMO, the previews for Speed Racer look horrible to me so, it was a very easy decision to go to Iron Man instead.
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05-12-2008, 08:13 PM
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Re: *** Official IRON MAN Discussion Thread
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Frankly, IMO, the previews for Speed Racer look horrible to me so, it was a very easy decision to go to Iron Man instead.
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I agree that the Speed Racer trailers were terrible. But they were not representative of the movie.
I am one of the folks that goes to see everything. But I don't have a family to support and often I will make solo trips to movies like this because many of my friends do not share the interest in these types of movies that I do. I even have a paid membership to the theater which i frequent most.
But someone said it earlier. These movies shouldn't have to compete.
Now I would have loved to see if Batman and Iron Man had been released in the same weekend.
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05-13-2008, 09:55 AM
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Re: *** Official IRON MAN Discussion Thread
If word of mouth was good on Speed Racer, it would get a bump and perhaps have some legs for the summer. The opposite is true.
From what I've read and heard, the visuals are great but it's all over the place in terms of plot. Add to that a 120+ running time and what you have is a nightmare for the intended audience: a long, draggy in the middle, nearly incomprehensible film for the PG crowd. That's not exactly smart from a marketing standpoint. Plus, just to keep it real, Speed Racer is at most a cult show for an older crowd. What 8-10 year old is interested (besides the ones with 30- to 40-something parents who liked the show as a youngster)?
The bottom line is, if it was a good film, the audience would show up regardless. I haven't seen it it yet but I'm not exactly killing myself to see it. I've seen Iron Man twice.
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05-13-2008, 10:22 AM
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Re: *** Official IRON MAN Discussion Thread
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If word of mouth was good on Speed Racer, it would get a bump and perhaps have some legs for the summer. The opposite is true.
From what I've read and heard, the visuals are great but it's all over the place in terms of plot. Add to that a 120+ running time and what you have is a nightmare for the intended audience: a long, draggy in the middle, nearly incomprehensible film for the PG crowd. That's not exactly smart from a marketing standpoint. Plus, just to keep it real, Speed Racer is at most a cult show for an older crowd. What 8-10 year old is interested (besides the ones with 30- to 40-something parents who liked the show as a youngster)?
The bottom line is, if it was a good film, the audience would show up regardless. I haven't seen it it yet but I'm not exactly killing myself to see it. I've seen Iron Man twice.
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Brett, there can't be word of mouth, because not a lot of folks saw it. The reviewers savaged it. If you look in the Speed Racer thread, you'll see a different story  It's definitely getting good word of mouth online. The kids in the theater I saw it with (both times) loved it. Never restless.
I don't agree the audience shows up for a good film, regardless. Any one of us can name dozens of good films the audience didn't give a fig for. And plenty of bad ones they did.
But this is an Iron Man thread. And Iron Man is a good movie, getting a good audience. I hope it translates into a good sequel and more support for RDJ in other areas. He's a treasure.
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05-14-2008, 05:59 PM
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Re: *** Official IRON MAN Discussion Thread
Finally saw Iron Man and loved it. Easily the best comic book/superhero movie I've seen since Batman Begins and probably in my all-time Top 5 for that genre of films. Great acting, fantastic effects and a good story. Not quite as much action as I expected, but still enough to keep the pace moving along. I never looked at the clock on my cell phone once which is a sign that I'm thoroughly involved in a movie. Can't wait for the Blu-Ray of this one, it should be awesome. 
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05-14-2008, 11:24 PM
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Re: *** Official IRON MAN Discussion Thread
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Bring back John Doe! Or at least resolve the cliff-hanger with a 2hr movie or as an extra on a dvd release.
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05-15-2008, 12:44 AM
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Loved Stan Lee's little cameo, it was spot on.
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Enjoyed seeing Stan also but I thought he was greeted as "Hef" (who he looked like with several young things) but in the credits was listed as "Himself".
What did I miss?
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