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Old 09-15-2008, 05:22 AM   #301 of 310
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Re: Harry Potter & The Half-Blood Prince discussion...


I think we're forgetting a key point here - namely, that the special effects sections are far from complete. As we all know, a mass of extra scenes are generally shot, and I suspect that rather than bore the preview audience with half-completed special effects scenes, some ultimately destined for the cutting room floor teen romance scenes were inserted in lieu and thus were over-emphasised. I seriously doubt if they will be as prominent in the final version.

With regards to the 'why have they left out ...?', I think there are several key points to remember:

(1) a lot of the plot threads introduced in HBP find their resolution in Deathly Hallows. Now DH is a book very rich in incidents and plot details. The writers are going to have their work cut out even splitting the final movie into two parts. So a vicious pruning of all but the key elements in HBP will pay dividends in the final movie.

(2) as a couple of folks have said, what looks good when read doesn't necessarily look good on film. Much as I enjoy Rowling's writing, she does at times get flabby. Witness GOF, easily the most meandering of the books, and how much better the plot was when pared down to the essentials in the movie. And sorry to be a dissenting voice, but the ending of HBP the book was over-long and mawkish (don't know if you have this phrase in American english - it means over-indulging in sickly sentiment with an almost masochistic pleasure). A swift resolve is better and far less sickly.

(3) I'm personally delighted if the Harry-Ginny relationship *doesn't* get 'consummated' straight after the quidditch match. My toes curled with embarrassment when I read that section. It was way too cheesy.

(4) Remember that we are meant to see these movies as a totality. We already know quite a bit about Voldemort's past and in movie terms we don't need a great deal more. In the book, it's different - there we have the time and leisure to fill in more details of the back story. But for the sake of the plot arc, you really don't need all that much more. And remember that in Deathly Hallows, we get even more back story (this time essential). If HBP spends too much time on filling in inessential back story (which the book readers will already know and the non-book readers don't want to) then the final movie will fell too repetitive.

(5) I like the sound of the beginning. I was dreading that the start of the movie would have a cameo from Tony Blair (Prime Minister at the time the book is set).
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Old 09-16-2008, 09:47 AM   #302 of 310
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Re: Harry Potter & The Half-Blood Prince discussion...


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There was a test screening tonight in Chicago, and the spoilers have started leaking out. From the sound of things ... (MAJOR book spoilers):
Spoiler:
[*]They kiss in the Room of Requirement instead
After Harry literally cuts Draco using the Sectum sempra spell from Half-Blood Prince's textbook, Ginny is disgusted by the parallels to her own crisis with Tom Riddle's diary. She begs him to give it up, and for her he does. They go into the Room of Requirement in the iteration full of hidden objects. Harry closes his eyes so he can't see where she hides the book. With his eyes closed, she kisses him — a real, adult kiss in contrast to Ron's snogging with Lavender. By the time Harry opens his eyes, both book and girl are gone.
Part of this was about hiding something in the Room of Requirement. They should be very careful with this scene as it is very important to the last book. In the book Harry did the hiding and marked the place with something that he remembers at a key point in Deathly Hallows. The way the spoiler is written it seems that might be overlooked.

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Old 10-01-2008, 01:00 PM   #303 of 310
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Old 10-26-2008, 01:30 PM   #304 of 310
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Old 10-26-2008, 01:53 PM   #305 of 310
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The moment at the end has me the most optimistic.



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Old 10-26-2008, 06:49 PM   #306 of 310
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Lookin pretty good. Also nice to see a few more bits from the climax that I was concerned about. Maybe someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe we saw...
Spoiler:
Bellatrix doing some magic in Hogwarts, her and some Death Eaters burning Hagrid's hut, Harry in pursuit of the Half Blood Prince through the forest, and a couple of other things.
The nice moment at the end also gives me some hope that this one can recapture some of the humor of GOF.




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Old 10-27-2008, 01:04 PM   #307 of 310
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The nice moment at the end also gives me some hope that this one can recapture some of the humor of GOF.
That is a great bit, though thirty seconds after seeing it, I had Life of Brian quotes on my mind.
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Old 11-16-2008, 10:47 AM   #308 of 310
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Trailer #3 out:

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Old 11-16-2008, 11:39 AM   #309 of 310
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This trailer will be released to theaters on the exact day the film was supposed to hit theaters.



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Old 11-16-2008, 11:56 AM   #310 of 310
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This trailer will be released to theaters on the exact day the film was supposed to hit theaters.

G@d D@#@*T!!!



Bring back John Doe! Or at least resolve the cliff-hanger with a 2hr movie or as an extra on a dvd release.
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