Star Trek XI- Official now- 12.25.2008 (merged) - Page 6

Jason Seaver · 07-25-2007, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Nelson Au

It's amazing that no other group of actors has had such a long association with a group of characters and made so many iterations of films as those characters in recent memory, at least that I am aware of.

It's happened a few times in Japan, I think - the same guy played Zatoichi for decades before Takeshi Kitano's version. And there were an awful lot of people who felt Basil Rathbone was Sherlock Holmes, full-stop, before Jeremy Brett took the role.

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Originally Posted by Brian D H

It's one of the things that makes Dr. Who pretty cool - it probably has the longest continuity of any other series past, present or future. And all of it is canon. (I think it is, anyway. I'm pretty sure they even managed to work in the 1996 US TV movie, too.)

Where's Ultraman fit? I saw the latest movie a couple weeks ago and it works in stuff from forty years ago (with the original actors, no less). I don't think it's had the ten-year hiatus Doctor Who did, although I think there were some soft reboots and attempted restarts in it.

(And then there's Godzilla, continually in production for almost fifty years but gleefully throwing everything aside from the original film out with each new sequel)

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Lou Sytsma · 07-26-2007, 06:51 AM

Have not watched Heroes yet, waiting for the DVD boxset.

So Hero followers, qualms aside about recasting the original Star Trek characters, what do you think? Is Quinto a good choice?

Kevin Grey · 07-26-2007, 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Lou Sytsma

Have not watched Heroes yet, waiting for the DVD boxset.

So Hero followers, qualms aside about recasting the original Star Trek characters, what do you think? Is Quinto a good choice?

I certainly think so. He ended up being one of the strongest cast members of the show for me.

Rocky F · 07-26-2007, 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Lou Sytsma

Have not watched Heroes yet, waiting for the DVD boxset.

So Hero followers, qualms aside about recasting the original Star Trek characters, what do you think? Is Quinto a good choice?

I think he's about as good a choice as anyone in Hollywood right now. I'm also curious about what role "Heroes" star Greg Grunberg will get. Let's face it, JJ puts him in everything, so he'll be there, but will it just be a cameo role, like he had in M:I III and the "Lost" pilot, or an actual part.

TonyD · 07-26-2007, 10:05 AM

in spite of the built in dr who face changing rule it still has had a different actor every time a new dr who comes into the story.

so star trek is the only one?

godzilla?
the guy in the suit?
you dont see him so how would that go into this.

Nelson Au · 07-26-2007, 10:45 AM

Lou, I am in the same boat, waiting for the Heros DVD's so I can see what the hoopla's about and I'll check out Quinto.

Regarding Abram's pal, Greg Grunberg, he's been recently quoted as saying he'd like to be Scotty. But earlier he commented he might like to be a Klingon. Whatever role, he's lobbying for something.

It's Thursday July 26th, so in a few hours, after 1:30pm west coast time, we will know what JJ Abrams and his colleagues have to say about Star Trek 2008 at Comic Con.

Patrick Sun · 07-26-2007, 11:55 AM

Grunberg is going to be a red-shirt (like out of Galactic Quest).

(Grunberg was basically a red-shirt in "Lost")

TravisR · 07-26-2007, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Kevin Grey

I certainly think so. He ended up being one of the strongest cast members of the show for me.

Yeah, I agree. Quinto and his character were two of the more interesting aspects of Heroes.

He was also on 24 in its third season too. He wasn't given much to do but he made the most of a relatively small part as a stick-up-his-ass computer guy.

Brian D H · 07-26-2007, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by TonyD

in spite of the built in dr who face changing rule it still has had a different actor every time a new dr who comes into the story.

so star trek is the only one?

godzilla?
the guy in the suit?
you dont see him so how would that go into this.

To recap for those keeping score:

Longest associations of a particular actor with a character:

Star Trek (Original cast - specifically Mr. Spock) -
40 years
With Nimoy appearing in this one and not Shatner, I guess the prize goes to him, since the rest of the original cast probably ended their runs a few years back. Of course, Nimoy would win by a nose regardless since he was in "The Cage" and Shatner wasn't. (Highest number of individual appearances of any franchise?)

Zatoichi (title character)-
"decades"
Anyone know how long? (A long time, but certainly less individual appearances than Star Trek. Perhaps it wins on length of time but not number of appearances?)

Longest continuity without reboot (NOT necessarily the same actor):

Doctor Who -
44 years

Star Trek -
40 years

(The two are nearly neck and neck. It's a matter of which one stops first or reboots.)

Longest running franchises with reboots:
(OK - lets track these from first film or TV incarnation through most recent. For example: Bond would track from Dr. No through Casino Royale. Feel free to correct my estimates.)

Dracula -
about 80 years
(tracking from Nosferatu to what? His appearance on Buffy? Van Helsing? What's the most recent appearance of this character?)

Zorro -
about 60+ years

Superman -
about 60 years

Batman -
about 60 years

Sherlock Holmes -
about 50 years

Bond -
42 years (Please correct my numbers)

Sam Favate · 07-26-2007, 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Patrick Sun

Grunberg is going to be a red-shirt (like out of Galactic Quest).

(Grunberg was basically a red-shirt in "Lost")

He can play the character that my friends and I have always called "Ensign Bodybag."