Star Trek XI- Official now- 12.25.2008 (merged) - Page 2

Nelson Au · 02-28-2007, 04:01 PM

Good point Jason.

Some of the earlier news reports had rumours of a StarFleet Academy or early adventures when Kirk first meets Spock type of story. Very little other details have come out. So this has led a lot of speculation it was an origins type of plot.

That would be interesting then. A brand new take on Star Trek possibly during the era when the first season of TOS occurs.

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Jack Briggs · 02-28-2007, 05:27 PM

Jason Seaver: Would you kindly share with us your thoughts about this whole thing? Do you like what Paramount has announced? Thank you. JB

DaveF · 02-28-2007, 05:34 PM

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Nemesis came out within a month of Harry Potter, James Bond, and The Two Towers. As big a franchise as Trek is, I think it got overshadowed by the hype/marketing from those three.

Mostly, the problem was that Nemesis was bad. It cheapened TNG's key characters with the quickie wedding of Riker and Troi, killing Data (with a sad reboot via downgraded Data), and destroyed the Enterprise. Finally, the story had nothing of note to do with the TNG universe. It was a mediocre two-part episode. (Bah!)

So, now, a "reboot" of the series with name-brand actors. A strenght of TNG, and subsequent shows, is that actors were relatively unknown so that they became the characters through and through. I'm concerned that this will be more of Matt Damon as kirk, rather than truly seeing Kirk.

But we'll see. It could really be good. I enjoy Abrams's TV a lot (when he's focused on the material), and MI:3 wasn't bad.

Dennis · 02-28-2007, 06:11 PM

I like the names being thown around for the leads. I thought Matt Damon for sure as Kirk, Gary Sinise is perfect for McCoy (look and voice), Zachary Quinto does resemble Leonard Nimoy. I thought of Russell Wong for Spock, looks like they wouldn't have to do much with the ears: Romeo Must Die. James McAvoy as Scotty? Might be nice to have a real Scotsman in the role.

Tim Glover · 02-28-2007, 06:30 PM

Well, to me, Matt Damon does NOT look anywhere close to 37....he could really pass for 27. I mean that. Although playing Jason Bourne surely takes it toll.

Lou Sytsma · 02-28-2007, 08:05 PM

Shatner and Nimoy have confirmed that they have been contacted by Abrams to appear in ST11. It is still conjecture as to the size of their roles and even if they will be reprising their characters, though it would be a major surprise if they did not.

I wonder if Abrams is going to use them to reminisce about an previously "untold' tale or bring in some time travel a la Guardian of Forever or parallel universes/dimensions where the future of the original crew is unknown territory for the fans.

There must be some way of rebooting the franchise, preserving the established history, and wiping the slate clean. I have no way of knowing how Abrams is approaching this but if I were him, that would be my goal. If he could pull that off, that would be very exciting.

Imagine! Preserving the already tattered continuity of what has transpired over the last 40 years and wiping the slate clean at the same time!!!

That would be a major coup!!!!!!!!!!!

RickER · 02-28-2007, 08:28 PM

How do you show an old Kirk? He died twice in Generations?

Qui-Gon John · 02-28-2007, 08:44 PM

Well, the frame of the movie could be Spock & Kirk, before Kirk goes on the Enterprise B christening, recalling an adventure in their youth.

DavidPla · 02-28-2007, 08:46 PM

I think it's definitely a smart move to have Shatner and Nimoy in the film. Who ever is cast in their respective younger roles will suddenly gain a bit more acceptance by people with the presence of Shatner and Nimoy in the film, that that they gave their blessing in a way to the new actors.

Kevin Grey · 02-28-2007, 08:54 PM

I don't know about those casting rumors- Sinise should be knee deep in CSI:NY filming when Trek is scheduled to go before the cameras.

Jason Seaver · 03-01-2007, 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Jack Briggs

Jason Seaver: Would you kindly share with us your thoughts about this whole thing? Do you like what Paramount has announced? Thank you. JB

Honestly, I think this has been a long time coming. I think I started kicking the idea around with friends as something nifty to do for the 25th anniversery (I think we had Keifer Sutherland cast as Kirk in our heads), and that was sixteen years ago. I never liked the idea of moving Trek forward into the 25th Century; I think that the technology in the 24th had reached the point where it was too abstract to be used for creating tension.

As to Abrams specifically, I like the choice. He's mentioned before that Kurtzman & Orci are big-time fans, and that the plan is to do something that is non-contradictory but not continuity-focused. My only real concern is that he'll get it in his head to do a trilogy, because as much as I like Mission: Impossible 3 and some of the big episodes of Alias, his long-form storytelling is awful (I bailed on Lost after the second-season premiere, and yeah, I know his involvement has been minimal since he signed on for M:I 3, but Lindelhoff is involved too).

In terms of re-establishing the "Star Trek" brand (and as a fan I feel a little dirty for typing that sentence), this is the best thing Paramount can do. Creating entirely new casts of characters has reached a point of diminishing returns. When someone says "Star Trek", the majority of men on the street word-associate Kirk and Spock, so why not give them that?

I do admit, I'm curious to see what the group will do design-wise. I think Enterprise had the right idea of working forward from today rather than backward from TOS, so I hope the producers don't try to go retro-futuristic on us. Take a great deal of design influence from the original series, but make sure it passes muster for a possible future in the twentieth century.