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01-27-2006, 03:13 PM
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Alien vs. Predator 2 in the works
I am as surprised as you are. I'm expecting it to be total crap, then I might be able to enjoy it this time.
http://www.rottentomatoes.com/news/c...entryid=285685
Aiming for an August 2007 release.
I guess hitting rock bottom for both franchises wasn't enough. Now they have to dig.
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01-27-2006, 03:19 PM
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They ought to combine it with Doom 2. It could be the cinematic equivalent of an AvP mod for Doom 3.  |
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01-27-2006, 03:53 PM
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IMO, they hadn't hit rock bottom yet with the Predator, I love Predator 2 and they could have easily have made a third film if it weren't for the passing of Kevin Peter Hall who was signed on for two more I believe at the time of his death.
AVP has grown on me with each viewing and would like a second one. 
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Can someone help me, please?"
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01-27-2006, 04:35 PM
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I'm glad they're making a sequel.
There's some serious "overhate" for the original.
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01-27-2006, 06:01 PM
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Yes. Now I can spread the hate across two movies!
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01-27-2006, 06:05 PM
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There's some serious "overhate" for the original.
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I disagree, it should have been easy to satisfy most of the "AvP" fanbase but the film still managed to outrage people that weren't expecting much. Nobody expected anything but a mindless action movie out of "AvP" but that's what we got, but the problem is simple: it's not a good mindless action movie. Everyone wanted the first film to be good, it just wasn't. "AvP" has the box-office record for the highest opening weekend for a film that didn't ever reach the $100,000,000 mark. That really sums up the way the film was recieved: the concept itself is enough to get a lot of people into a theater but everyone seemed to jump ship when the actual quality of the film was revealed. Like most others, "AvP" was probably the single most disappointing moviegoing experience of my life but I'll still remain optimistic about any future "AvP" movies. I just hope that they learn from the huge mistakes made on the first film.
Anyways, I hope they see a future "AvP" movie as an opportunity to right the previous film's wrongs. They alienated the fanbase, robbed both franchises of all credibility and exhausted the "I gotta see that" factor. When this movie is released, they're gonna have to deal with the die-hard fans that felt betrayed by the first one and the casual moviegoer with the "been there, done that" attitude towards another on-screen pairing. The only way "AvP2" won't definitively kill both franchises is if it's... SHOCK... actually GOOD! That's what they need to be worrying about, hiring a great writer (which already doesn't seem likely, since they already have a script which seemed to come out of nowhere) and a visionary director.
and also, THEY NEED TO GET STAN WINSTON STUDIOS TO DO THE CREATURE EFFECTS! ADI is capable of doing the Aliens but they really botched the Predators.
Don't you ever, EVER compare me to "Family Guy," you hear me Kyle? Compare me to "Family Guy" again and so help me, I will kill you where you stand!
Do you have any idea what it's like? Everywhere I go: "Hey Cartman you must like 'Family Guy,' right?" "Hey, your sense of humor reminds me of 'Family Guy' Cartman!" I AM NOTHING LIKE FAMILY GUY! WHEN I MAKE JOKES THEY ARE INHERENT TO A STORY! DEEP SITUATIONAL AND EMOTIONAL JOKES BASED ON WHAT IS RELEVANT AND HAS A POINT, NOT JUST ONE RANDOM INTERCHANGEABLE JOKE AFTER ANOTHER!
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01-27-2006, 07:12 PM
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That serious "Overhate" is well earned.
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01-27-2006, 07:33 PM
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No such thing as overhate for a movie like AvP.
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01-27-2006, 07:44 PM
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I would usually be in agreement with all of you, saying that this movie stunk. However, for whatever reason, I actually kind of liked it. Maybe it was because I expected absolutely nothing. Maybe not a buyer, but definitely a fun movie.
I have mixed feelings about a sequel, and not even sure if I will see it. But who knows, the first one surprised me.
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01-27-2006, 07:56 PM
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It was a damn sight better than Alien3 "theatrical" and Alien Ressurection.
At least AvP tried to be entertaining.
No, it wasn't anywhere near the first two alien movies, but that ship sailed a LONG time ago.
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01-27-2006, 08:15 PM
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It was a damn sight better than Alien3 "theatrical" and Alien Ressurection.
At least AvP tried to be entertaining.
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Not only would I disagree with you, the IMDB and Rotten Tomatoes rankings also disagree with you. In the eyes of the vast majority of the fanbase, Paul WS Anderson managed to make a movie significantly worse than "Alien3", "Alien Resurrection" and "Predator 2". I not only think that "Alien vs. Predator" is much more of a tedious viewing experience, it is completely artless, which certainly can't be said about the films Fincher and Jeunet made, and Stephen Hopkins isn't the most artistic director ever but he's actually a competant technical director, unlike PWSA.
Here are their scores. The percentages are from the Tomatometer, the other number is from IMDB:
Alien: 100%,93%(DC)/8.4
Aliens: 100%/8.3
Predator: 79%/7.4
Predator 2: 25%/5.5
Alien3: 33%/6.2
Alien Resurrection: 52%/6.0
Alien vs. Predator: 22%/5.4
Don't you ever, EVER compare me to "Family Guy," you hear me Kyle? Compare me to "Family Guy" again and so help me, I will kill you where you stand!
Do you have any idea what it's like? Everywhere I go: "Hey Cartman you must like 'Family Guy,' right?" "Hey, your sense of humor reminds me of 'Family Guy' Cartman!" I AM NOTHING LIKE FAMILY GUY! WHEN I MAKE JOKES THEY ARE INHERENT TO A STORY! DEEP SITUATIONAL AND EMOTIONAL JOKES BASED ON WHAT IS RELEVANT AND HAS A POINT, NOT JUST ONE RANDOM INTERCHANGEABLE JOKE AFTER ANOTHER!
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01-27-2006, 10:11 PM
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Whatever. Like or dislike AvP, it doesn't bother me either way.
I just dont get the hate, never will.
I'm looking forward to a sequel. I just hope they set it in the far future. |
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01-27-2006, 10:23 PM
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It's easy to understand the hate. A hack director took a potential franchise goldmine and made a mindless, non-entertaining Bay-esque action flick without a single redeeming quality. Worse, he made up his own story instead of simply adapting one of the several good stories already out there.
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