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Old 03-01-2007, 02:29 PM   #181 of 223
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Looks like I'll finally have something good to watch every weekend for a while.

Thanks for the recommendations

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Old 03-01-2007, 02:41 PM   #182 of 223
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Are all Scorsese films as great as this? I feel a trip to the video store for a DVD marathon is in order, because I've certainly missed out.
Watch:

Mean Streets
Taxi Driver
Raging Bull
Goodfellas

NOW!




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Old 03-01-2007, 02:58 PM   #183 of 223
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Add Casino, The King of Comedy, and After Hours to that list. And if while it isn't for everyone Alice Doesn't Live Here Anymore and Age of Innocence are two of his very best.
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Old 03-02-2007, 12:29 AM   #184 of 223
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I'd say The Last Temptation of Christ as well, but I think he's got enough for now. He can start up the second wave later.




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Old 03-03-2007, 12:34 AM   #185 of 223
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Saw the movie on BD today and it was great. I had two problems with the movie. One was Nicholson’s character being an FBI informant. I mean what the…? Why he worked for the FBI, why all that crime?

And the second problem for me was the second mole and all that killings at the end! It was just too much. I mean it didn't do anything to me. It left me cold, it wasn't that dramatic! I’m of the opinion that having shock after shock or having multiple twists doesn’t make a movie more exciting. A more simple and focused human story is more dramatic. I “think” the story would have been more powerful with Nicholson’s character not being an FBI informant, no second mole and seeing fewer people get killed and some arrested! For example Damon's character getting arrested would have been better.




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Old 03-03-2007, 12:58 AM   #186 of 223
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sam, jack wasn't working for FBI, he was feeding them false info to throw them off the trail.

secondly, try Infernal Affairs (the HK version) and things will become more clear =D. it's all about cat&mouse game, on the mob side there are 2 moles, on the cop side, there are 2 moles. the HK version is a bit diff. from remake in who dies/lives but i leave it upto you to watch it =D.



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Old 03-03-2007, 09:06 AM   #187 of 223
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sam, jack wasn't working for FBI, he was feeding them false info to throw them off the trail.

Wouldn't FBI say something is wrong here? He is chopping people's heads off!




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Old 03-03-2007, 09:24 PM   #188 of 223
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I don't think he's necessarily giving them false info. As they mention in the featurette on the DVD, the real Boston mob leader (Whitey Bulger) was giving the FBI some info on other criminal activities around town in exchange for them looking the other way with regards to what he was involved with.


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Old 03-04-2007, 01:37 AM   #189 of 223
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I didn't want Damon's character arrested. He got exactly what I needed to make me feel less horrible about Leo getting whacked.



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Old 03-04-2007, 10:14 AM   #190 of 223
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I didn't want Damon's character arrested. He got exactly what I needed to make me feel less horrible about Leo getting whacked.

Amen.
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Old 03-05-2007, 06:22 AM   #191 of 223
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Re: *** Official The Departed Discussion Thread


Finally saw the movie (with my wife and son) in (indeed) glorious HD. What a brilliant movie!

I don't think it's fair to the Academy to say that Scorsese got the Oscar for the wrong movie in his career (and perhaps, some might disagree ), because Oscars aren't administered "vertically", in time, for your own work, but "horizontally", in a comparison with works of others during the same year.

Of course one can still disagree with a particular Oscar ( ), but it's quite possible and all in the system that a brilliant movie could lose the Oscar to an even better one, while a slightly lesser movie of the same director wins in another year.

Anyway, I think this year's Oscars were rightfully granted to The Departed.

About some of the above critique: Jack's character was an FBI-informant indeed, but as he told Leo he only fed (pun intended) guys to them who were about to go down anyway. So he really provided them with serious looking information sometimes, from their point of view, but rather inconsequential from the mob's, or at least his own, view.

Also, I think Billy's death was in line with the story. Part of the message is about the way you get contaminated with the side you're in as a mole. Your hands will get dirty, and your may get corrupted when you're in the mob and you may arrest some thugs or even kill one of the bosses if you're in the police.
There's no doubt, IMO, that Billy was willing and going to kill the guy who almost blew his cover. It only didn't happen because the man died on him first.

Note the tiny parallel: a "second" inactive mole in the gang (at least it's more than hinted at that the guy was indeed perhaps a police plant, although that may also have been a distraction only) saves him, and Billy was ready to kill him, while later another "second" inactive mole (in the police team) indeed finished his life for an equivalent reason.
And in both cases the sleeping moles play a bit of a deus ex machina.

This is a typical Scorsese movie indeed. Hardly any likeable characters (only some more "innocent" ones) and it keeps you thinking it over a lot afterwards.
And, once more, brilliant!
I think I will go and see this film a second time soon.


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