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08-20-2006, 07:40 PM
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The Protector
I just saw a commercial/trailer on TV a few minutes ago for Tony Jaa's new movie the Protector. I loved Ong Bak, but this was a definite surprise. The trailer is in english and the film will have a wide release September 8th.
The great thing about Tony Jaa is that he doesnt use wires. So when you watch The Protector (or Ong Bak) keep that in mind. I found a trailer on Yahoo! Movies too, for those who havent been able to see it on TV.
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08-22-2006, 01:46 PM
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Re: The Protector
movie looks cool.
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08-22-2006, 02:34 PM
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Re: The Protector
Hate the American title. It's generic and instantly foregettable.
Saw this on DVD during the summer when I was in Asia. It's a good follow up to Ong Bak. The action is in a similar vein to Ong Bak, which is to say that it breaks no new ground, but still kicks way too much butt. The script is likewise pretty bad, involving a very complicated, multi-national crime story (I think it had Jaa going from Thailand to Sydney because Chinese criminals captured his elephant).
There is one stunning shot that seems to last around 4 minutes where Tony Jaa goes up a staircase, and kicks the crap out of people, and a steadicam chases him up. I don't know if I missed the shot break somewhere. If not, this is one of the most astonishing shots I've ever seen.
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09-09-2006, 10:17 AM
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Re: The Protector
I got to see the movie last night at the theater with some of my buds. Being a large fan of martial arts films and on the look out for "the next big thing," especially since the world famous Jackie Chan is getting long in the tooth and Jet Li is supposedly retiring from the martial arts movie game, I found "Ong Bak" to be a very impressive first effort by a genuine new talent with Tony Jaa and had high hopes from the trailers for "The Protector" that his movies would only get better.
I was mistaken, however. While Jaa's new movie boasts some wonderful choreography and stunts and shows some resemblence to his first outing, this movie fails to capture my imagination as his first film did. While plotting and story aren't always the most important aspect of a martial arts film, some basic understanding of these are still important. While I do appreciate the sometimes more-is-less idea about story and character development, this movie went a bit far.
The movie has a similar set up as Ong Bak. Jaa plays a simple country man who loves his village and its older traditions. Like Ong Bak, outsiders come into his spiritual world and tear it up, forcing him to jump into action. The original movie had Jaa chasing down his village's sacred artifact while in this movie he chases his village's sacred elephant. While Ong Bak had a much better flow with story and better justifications for different characters to be involved with the story, "The Protector" finds the story as a mediocre interference with the action. Set piece action scene gives way to set piece action scene but there are no characters we can identify with or support because they are so thinly drawn, if drawn at all.
The action scenes are nifty and maybe with a better vehicle would have sold the movie. There is a great scene at a temple where we see Jaa's Muai Thai go against capoeira, a highly underused Brazilian martial arts. It is a great fight but you have to wonder...who is this bad guy? He is never connected to the main villain(s) of the picture. Neither is the cool sword guy and then giant mountain of a man that are in the remainder of the scene. There is another Xtreme biking/skating/rollerblading team that fights Jaa. Again, a fun scene but completely devoid of any logic or reason...and I am not saying I need a lot. Just a teeny bit would do.
So if you like Jaa's martial arts style, this will probably at a base level satisfy but if you like a little coherence for your money, this might be a better rental or matinee showing. Me, I am holding out for Ronny Yu's "Fearless" and man, there was a great trailer for Yimou Zhang's "Curse of the Golden Flower." THAT looks like some fun storytelling mixed with martial arts.
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09-09-2006, 02:10 PM
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Re: The Protector
Saw this again in theaters. I am not entirely sure, but I believe the movie has been cut slightly, and some of the music changed.
Outside of Tony Jaa and the action sequences, Ong Bak was a bad movie, but this is an atrocious one. The action does not really rival Ong Bak either, though the capoeira fight Phil mentioned is a big highlight. Still, when it comes to the end of the movie, and Jaa goes off cracking people's bones, there is a giddiness in the collective audience.
I really could not detect a shot break in the staircase shot. There is no obvious "let's use the door as a break," Rope-type of camera move. Just to think of the coordination, choreography, and blocking of this shot boggles the mind.
Look out for a cameo early in the movie, similar to what was done in The Rundown.
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09-09-2006, 03:36 PM
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Re: The Protector
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Saw this again in theaters. I am not entirely sure, but I believe the movie has been cut slightly, and some of the music changed.
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Tony Jaa confirmed this in an interview with AICN.
To be honest, after seeing Ong Bak, I wouldn't expect a great movie. Really, the only reason to watch Jaa's movies is to see what eye popping thing he does next. The plots and the acting in Ong Bak were substandard even for HK films.
Jason
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09-09-2006, 10:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Kirk Tsai
Hate the American title. It's generic and instantly foregettable.
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Type in "The Protector" into the IMDB title search and you'll get a lot of matches, including a Jackie Chan movie. One year there was apparenlty two movies released with this title.
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09-10-2006, 11:26 AM
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Saw this again in theaters. I am not entirely sure, but I believe the movie has been cut slightly, and some of the music changed.
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The US release is cut by about ten minutes, according to the newspaper article I read yesterday.
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09-10-2006, 12:26 PM
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Re: The Protector
I think there was a bit more than 10 minutes cut.... I have seen the original listed as 109 minutes, and this was barely 80.
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