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08-17-2006, 05:57 PM
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Re: DePalmas Black Dahlia
Having someone's body ripped limb from limb is disney?
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08-17-2006, 06:02 PM
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Re: DePalmas Black Dahlia
Mission to Mars is PG.
FYI, Black Dahlia is rated "R for strong violence, some grisly images, sexual content and language."
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08-17-2006, 06:06 PM
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Having someone's body ripped limb from limb is disney?
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Are you talking about Scarface or something else? You never see anything in the chainsaw scene, except for reaction shots.
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08-17-2006, 08:41 PM
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Touchstone, not Disney. I know Touchstone is owned by Disney, but it's like saying Warner Brothers instead of New Line. |
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08-17-2006, 11:36 PM
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Re: DePalmas Black Dahlia
Sorry, let me rephrase.......someone having their body ripped limb from limb is subtle?
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09-15-2006, 09:01 AM
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Re: DePalmas Black Dahlia
Reviews have been terrible.
How can material like this be described as "campy"?
Rotten Tomatoes is at 48%. Im waiting on James Bs review at the moment.
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09-15-2006, 11:40 AM
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A pity, if the reviews are to be believed. I've never read the book, but I was looking forward to this one. Seems like I haven't been to the movies in ages, and the reason is always the same - lackluster reviews of whatever film I was moderately excited about.
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09-15-2006, 04:30 PM
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Must be much more subtle than any f-bomb or titty flash...that kind of content gives an instant "R" rating. *sarcasm off*
Ugh...
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09-15-2006, 04:52 PM
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Re: DePalmas Black Dahlia
Regardless of reviews, Variety says tracking is excellent.
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09-15-2006, 05:38 PM
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Re: DePalmas Black Dahlia
I may be turned on to a movie by good word of mouth or critical praise but I don't avoid a movie that I think I would like due to bad word of mouth or critical panning either. In other words, I'm still going to catch it but my expectations are lowered.
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09-15-2006, 05:49 PM
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It's always hard to make anything of reviews of DePalma's work because he's such a polarizing director and likes to play and do goofy things in his films. But he's usually interesting so I'll probably see this one.
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09-15-2006, 08:42 PM
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I wouldn't buy into the reviews too much if you enjoy DePalma's work. A lot of the reviews I've read attacked all the style and I think the "more style than substance" could fit many DePalma movies so I'm not sure why the critics are attacking the style here so much.
My girlfriend and I just got back from seeing the film and we both enjoyed it. I left the theater somewhat disappointed because I had hoped this would return DePalma to his top-notch style, which it doesn't but this was still a good film. The visual style of the film was brilliant and it really captured the look and feel of the 1940's film noir. The tricky camera shots were really distracting at the start of the film but they weren't used too much after that. It does seem DePalma spends more time dealing with the tech stuff over the acting, which is another mild negative. I thought Eckhart and Hartnett should have switched roles. Hartnett was good but he just wasn't strong enough to carry the film and his narration wasn't that good either. I was also disappointed with Scarlett Johansson but she wasn't given too much to do. Hilary Swank was good as usual.
I know the detective stuff and the "ending" to the murder was all made up but I think they could have came up with something better. The final thirty minutes get quite confusing and the ending let me down because it was just so far fetched at times while at other times it seems the screenplay as rushing things to get the film over with. Being a fan of silent cinema, I enjoyed various Hollywood talk but I'm sure fans on one silent legend will be upset over how this guy is shown in the film. I haven't read the book this fake stuff is based on but The Man Who Laughs segments were a nice touch (but pulled towards the 'yeah right').
Overall, I think most DePalma fans will enjoy this but don't expect one of his classics. I'd give it a  out of four.
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09-16-2006, 07:14 AM
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Re: DePalmas Black Dahlia
I thought it was almost a parody of film noir. Many of the characters and the scenes are just too much, including a waaaay-over-the-top scene in which a dining room table is cleared for love-making. Groan.
I like Scarlett Johanssen as an actress, but not in this. She just wasn't very good. I never believed in her character or the things she did. Josh Hartnett never did much for me either -- he seems too young to be carrying a movie like this. I felt like I was watching Dean from the Gilmore Girls.
Still, it was not without merit. The long shot that begins in the street and tracks over the building to the field behind it (where the body is) is great. And there are other nice touches as well.
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