Do sex/naked scenes really add anything to film?

JediFonger · 07-17-2006, 03:28 PM

i see we have a thread about best sex scenes and that reminds me of somn i've been meaning to post but always forget.

not to sound like a prude, but do you guys think sex or nude scenes add anything to the film's narrative? i mean, let's subtract the factor of conservative/liberal viewpoints out of this thread. that's a discussion topic for ANOTHER new thread.

what i wanna' know is, in terms of the story/narrative, does having naked bodies shown really add to the quality of the film? or is it always going to be relative to subjectivity?

i mean, will basic instinct still work w/o showing the sex/nakedness? will wild things still work w/o the menage scene? will most of ewan's films work without showing his penis? etc.

BrianTwig · 07-17-2006, 03:30 PM

Wait a minute. There are films without nudity and sex?

JonZ · 07-17-2006, 04:24 PM

"Do sex/naked scenes really add anything to film?"

yes

Ricardo C · 07-17-2006, 04:39 PM

Depending on the film, they can add realism, emotion, or mere titilation. If it belongs in the story and isn't gratuitous, why not?

Hell, there's no harm in gretuitous nudity if that's the kind of film you're going for

Adam_S · 07-17-2006, 04:40 PM

depends on what the nudity is accomplishing. are you simply showing it because its a part of the characters and their world and hiding it would be false to the film? (ie Kiss Kiss Bang Bang) or are your showing it because it will inspire controversy and titalating headlines, perhaps inflating the overall gross because of those two? (ie Caligula)

There's nothing wrong with overall nudity, there is something wrong with the perception of 'wrongness' and horror/fascination our culture imposes on the human body. When that's exploited it only feeds the problem, when it's used appropriately it can be very powerful means of expression, but its still feeding the problem. Or it can just be used carelessly, just as a fact, neither exploitative or expressionistic, that's actually probably the most healthy, and I think you see that more in European films.

there are times its appropriate and times its not. But I'd say we're in an enormous dearth of nudity as a part of sex today, most American films shy away totally from nudity, especially anything from the studio. I think a big part of that is that porn is more accessible and attainable to anyone from a nine year old to a ninety year old today. So its less escapable and the comparison to the exploitation of porn is easier to make, no actress or actor wants to get caught in that potential nightmare (Natalie Portman in Closer). That means that you need really good reasons to show nudity today, reasons films such as "Last Tango in Paris" might legitimately have. But these have always been the exception.

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Scott Simonian · 07-17-2006, 04:46 PM

I dont care much for sex in most movies. Most of the time it isn't pulled off very well...for various reasons. It just isn't sexy or needed then.

Nudity is something else....

Rich Malloy · 07-17-2006, 04:47 PM

Sex/naked scenes often add both sex and nakedness to films.

But I take it you're not asking whether sex and nakedness add the obvious sexy and nude elements, or even whether these encourage merely prurient responses or something more high-minded like emotional, psychological depth? Or even just the obvious verisimilitude of things people do on a daily basis? Because I think the response here is obvious, and I'm talking about serious films by serious filmmakers.

But I suspect your query mostly directed at whether any elements of sex and nakedness somehow relate to "plot"? In other words, is your's primarily a plot-centric concern? Truly, most of the shit that trundles off the Hollywood conveyer belt are simple three-acts, the only purpose of which is to get from plot-point A to plot-point B and so on before the inevitable groan-inducing pat conclusions of the third act. Assuming for a moment that these are the movies you're concerned with, let me try to address the question.

It's hard to say that sex and/or nakedness adds anything but an occasionally welcome distraction from the inanities at hand, but unfortunately most crappy movies these days have been stripped of the prurient elements that kept me watching crappy movies as a teenager. I don't mean to wax nostalgic for the good ol' days and betray my old-fartiness before the world, but kids today don't even get a nice bit of titty with their crappy movies. They just get crappy movies.

TravisR · 07-17-2006, 04:47 PM

As others have said, it all depends on the movie. The same thing could be asked about violent or comedic or dramatic content.

JeremyErwin · 07-17-2006, 06:16 PM

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