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Old 05-15-2007, 12:18 PM   #91 of 243
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When did T4 become the jump on Lucas thread?
I'd say that the internet exists solely bash George Lucas but Brett beat me to it.
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Old 05-15-2007, 12:18 PM   #92 of 243
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Mostow sucks too. But I thought that was a given.
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Old 05-15-2007, 02:01 PM   #93 of 243
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As bad as Terminator 3 sucked, I think they need to let the Terminator series die a dignified death.
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Old 05-15-2007, 02:04 PM   #94 of 243
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As bad as Terminator 3 sucked, I think they need to let the Terminator series die a dignified death.

I enjoyed T3 in the theater, not so much the second and third time. Still, I think there is enough material to make for an entertaining film.


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Old 05-15-2007, 04:47 PM   #95 of 243
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Best. Director. Eva.

LOL, awesome photo!

Here's my pride and joy that I have hanging up.


I won't say no to a 4th Terminator, but I don't expect another T2 out of this franchise.
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Old 05-15-2007, 06:44 PM   #96 of 243
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I always thought the point of the Terminator films, especially the second one, was that it was about preventing war. T2 was actually a pretty good anti-war movie. I liked how in the first two, they showed glimpses of the future war, showing how terrible it would be. Then T3 came along and said, "Nope, there's going to be a war alright, forget those other two movies."

Having a Terminator movie set in the future war sort of goes completely against the first two. And its a big sell-out idea by the studios.

The Terminator is nothing without James Cameron.
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Old 05-15-2007, 06:59 PM   #97 of 243
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The Terminator is nothing without James Cameron.

The Terminator is more than James Cameron. Arnie and Linda Hamilton were also integral to the success of the first two films.


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Old 05-15-2007, 07:03 PM   #98 of 243
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Well, we had a Terminator film without Cameron, and I disliked it. A LOT. So I'd be willing to bet Cameron is far more vital to the series than Arnold or Linda.

But I think Cameron is more vital to his films than any other element in them. So I am biased.

As for T4, is Cameron involved? No? Then I have zero interest.
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Old 05-15-2007, 07:05 PM   #99 of 243
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Then T3 came along and said, "Nope, there's going to be a war alright, forget those other two movies."
That was my biggest problem with the movie too. The first two say that 'The future is not set' but T3 just says that those two other movies are wrong and the future is set.
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Old 05-16-2007, 03:17 PM   #100 of 243
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That was my biggest problem with the movie too. The first two say that 'The future is not set' but T3 just says that those two other movies are wrong and the future is set.
Actually that was one thing I thought was great about T3. I take it as "Humankind's fate is for this war to be inevitable because we keep playing around with and improving technology". The original SkyNet was just one way for it to happen but it would happen another way if we keep screwing around with technology and could not be avoided . "We" have no fate as in the whole human race but the human race didn't change, only two people, and that was not enough to stop the inevitable.
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Old 05-17-2007, 04:36 PM   #101 of 243
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Actually that was one thing I thought was great about T3. I take it as "Humankind's fate is for this war to be inevitable because we keep playing around with and improving technology". The original SkyNet was just one way for it to happen but it would happen another way if we keep screwing around with technology and could not be avoided . "We" have no fate as in the whole human race but the human race didn't change, only two people, and that was not enough to stop the inevitable.

I agree Chuck! I should also admit that I loved T3 so I guess I am not in the norm.
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Old 05-17-2007, 07:55 PM   #102 of 243
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Exactly.

In T1 Judgement Day had already occurred in the future.

Yet, humanity could still change that future.

In T2, Judgement Day was close, but still looming in the future. Mankind could still alter its actions, its future, its fate....

In T3, Judgement Day has come. Mankind failed to heed the warnings, and still blundered on thinking the way it was going was the best way. The Terminator, knowing this, was sent back to protect Connor from death; to save him for his destined role to lead the survivors of humanity.

And yes, I liked T3 too.