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03-29-2006, 01:00 PM
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Poseidon....Wave???
A freind and i were veiwing the latest trailer of the movie
And got into a discussion on wether or no it was possible for a wave to break like that in the middle of the ocean...Would it not have to be close to the shoreline to start climbing like that? Or maybe i should just go with it for the movies sake. I Think the movie looks great other wise....But he is all about the realism...
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03-29-2006, 01:09 PM
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It happens all of time, they are called rouge waves.
http://hotboatbiz.blogspot.com/2005/...-solitons.html
http://www.math.uio.no/~karstent/waves/index_en.html
Can they be big enough to flip a cruise ship? Maybe.
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03-29-2006, 04:27 PM
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I didn't see anything in those pages on rogue waves to indicate that they're breaking waves, which is what happens in Poseidon. And my understanding is that for a wave to break like that, it has to basically "trip" on the ocean floor, a reef, whatever. There's a ratio between the height of the wave and the depth of the water that will tell you when the wave will break. So yes, it's largely a coastal thing.
I think the same complaint came out when the original movie showed, that a ship out in deep water is not going to encounter a breaking wave like that (and an experienced captain should know not to turn side on to a huge wave -- breaking or not -- for obvious reasons).
I say just try to get past that little gaff and enjoy the drama in an upside-down ship!
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03-29-2006, 09:25 PM
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Wasn't the original based in the Med which is relatively shallow ?
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You got that one right....
On my last trip to Blockbuster, I noticed a Posiedon movie where terrorists blow it up to make it turn turtle. Looked pretty much "made for tv".... anyone seen that version ?
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03-29-2006, 09:40 PM
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Actually about 100 miles off the coast of San Diego there is a reef that comes up to within a few feet of the surface.
When tsunami's or storms happen on the other side of the pacific, surfers will calculate how long before the swells will make the reef. Then they load up on waverunners and helicopters and go out for 75 to 100 foot waves.
Read this in one of those magazines on a flight. Pretty fascinating.
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03-30-2006, 06:40 AM
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wikipedia has an article that seems a little more informative:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freak_wave
it appears as though these "freak waves" do, in fact, break in the middle of the ocean.
i was wondering exactly the same thing when i saw the poseidon trailer, but then i was assuming that they were depicting a tsunami...
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03-30-2006, 06:59 AM
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That Wikipedia article was really good but I did not sea any mention of the freak wave breaking as if near shore.
For a wave to break, the wave amplitude is no longer sustainable due to a shallowing of the sea bed. It collapses like a house of cards.
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03-30-2006, 07:02 AM
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According to the plot outline at Joblo.com:
"When a rogue wave capsizes a luxury cruise ship in the middle of the North Atlantic Ocean, a small group of survivors find themselves unlikely allies in a battle for their lives."
My bet is an underwater earthquake or storm off the coast of Europe creating the wave.
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03-30-2006, 10:14 AM
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Their was a show on rogue waves a few months ago on one of the Discovery channels. It said that rogue waves are not as uncommon as most believe. Actually, they are very common.
Bring back John Doe! Or at least resolve the cliff-hanger with a 2hr movie or as an extra on a dvd release.
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03-30-2006, 11:26 AM
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It's a movie. I would suspend your belief a bit before going in.
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03-30-2006, 12:50 PM
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It's a movie. I would suspend your belief a bit before going in.
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