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Old 03-13-2006, 09:30 PM   #1 of 193
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ebert and roeper each gave it a good review.
in fact roeper casually said who was behind the mask like it was no big deal.
i have the origionsal comics but havent read them yet so was this a bad giveaway by roeper to say who was behind the mask?


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Old 03-14-2006, 02:43 AM   #2 of 193
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I don't know if this has already been brought up but here it goes:

When this movie is shown in Imax, what will the aspect ratio be?



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Old 03-14-2006, 02:51 AM   #3 of 193
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TonyD: All Roeper reveals is the name of the actor playing V, so no, it really doesn't spoil anything at all!
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Old 03-14-2006, 10:28 AM   #4 of 193
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The discussion for this movie is going to be QUITE interesting, I think.


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Old 03-14-2006, 01:29 PM   #5 of 193
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Having read the novel, I'm sure it'll be quite edgy and free-wheeling, and I expect several moderator insertions of reason and HTF rules Not because of me, though, as I have learned my lessons over a few choice mistakes

I am EXTREMELY excited for this film, the first truly interesting film released this year (for me).
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Old 03-14-2006, 08:36 PM   #6 of 193
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Saw a preview of this tonight so I thought Id make a few non-spoiler comments.

I had heard extremely positive things about this film but I must say that I havent read the graphic novel on which its based. The first thing is that the trailer is extremely misleading as to the nature of the film (as a lot of trailers are I suppose). This is not an action film at all - in fact there are only 2 moments in the entire film that I considered to be an action sequence and both were brief. This is not a criticism, just an observation as those people expecting a film similar to the trailer are going to be disappointed.

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I thought Hugo Weaving was great as V and the mask was actually enhancing his performance rather than detracting from it, probably because it was so distinctive.

I understand that the novel was written some time ago and whilst this is a fantasy version of a totalitarian state, anyone watching this film cannot fail to recognise the myriad of references to modern political and social issues that we are dealing with today.This film is quite blunt about the points it is trying to make - subtlety is out of the way in favour of loudly declaring its stance. Unfortunately, this occasionally meant some awful dialogue.

Enjoyed the score, which also seems to be the same as that from the trailer (from when V knocks over the domino).

Thought Stephen Fry was also great here.

The bad points - as I said there is some awful dialogue in this film. In the first 10 minutes I felt like Weaving had been replaced by the Architect from Reloaded and that the Waschowskis have been raiding the thesaurus again in order to use 1000 words when one will do (although there is a funny speech involving words starting with V). This eases off during the film but there are some really stupid lines.

The pace of the film is very uneven with some aspects of the plot rushed through and some drawn out too much. The film also often feels the need to repeat a point it has made or a parallel it has drawn with the result that it feels quite drawn out and long. A bit of editing would have helped I think

Whilst the story of V's background and motivation is ok, how it relates to other events that are gradually revealed is poorly handled, and rushed with the result that the connection seems contrived.

I would give it 2 1/2 out of 5 probably because I was expecting a much better film. It's not bad and it's unusual to see a mainstream film tackle such controversial issues head on. It's a shame that some awful dialogue and shoddy storytelling dilute this and make the film merely average.



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Old 03-14-2006, 11:24 PM   #7 of 193
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Saw the film tonight as well. Aside from the poor presentation of the theater I was in (low audio, no surround sound), I thought the film was great. Simon, I couldn't really make out what V was saying at the beginning due to the poor sound, but it sounded like he was essentially saying what was said in the novel. The parallels drawn to current events were thunderous and I thoroughly enjoyed those aspects. I just hope the stories aren't true and that the Wachowski's will continue making films.
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Old 03-15-2006, 07:40 AM   #8 of 193
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Looking forward to seeing this over the weekend. I love the tag line on the poster "People Should Not Be Afraid of Their Governments - Governments Should Be Afraid Of Their People." That's a paraphrase from an old quote by Thomas Jefferson who said "When people are afraid of their government, that's tyranny. When governments are afraid of their people, that's liberty."

The whole ad campaign for V has been great, with the old propaganda-style posters. They have a pretty good web site up and running too.

If the movie is at all true to the book, it's bound to get bashed by the most politically sensitive among us (and I don't mean HTF). Rather than being about this precise moment in history (to which I think it has applications), I think the story (which was written more than 20 years ago) shows the universal truths about how tyranny takes hold and transforms a society.


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Old 03-15-2006, 08:37 AM   #9 of 193
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Sam:

It looks like the truth-sensitive might have a thing or two to say about it as well. Plus, movies about tyranny are nothing new. I will judge V based on its filmmaking craft and the relevance of its story for our culture.


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Old 03-15-2006, 09:49 AM   #10 of 193
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I'm very excited to see this movie. A good friend saw it on a sneak peek this week, and raved about it.

Before hearing his comments I was a little sceptical about "V". Now I'm all in! Hope to see it next week.
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Old 03-15-2006, 10:31 AM   #11 of 193
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Rather than being about this precise moment in history (to which I think it has applications),
I think the strength of the story is not in immediate (and facile) connections to current events (I can apply the same "immediacy" to many cultures over many time periods), but in the universality of the struggle between the individual and the group, between a citizen and those on ANY official side who'd like to determine what is best for society and you.

I am certain that many politically motivated folks will foist their interpretations, on both sides. I admire any film that leads to discourse. Especially when it's civil.
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