Alien vs. Predator 2 in the works - Page 7

Diallo B · 12-04-2007, 07:12 PM

it is official. the movie will be released on 12/25/2007 with a rating of Restricted.....

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/avp2/

George_W_K · 12-05-2007, 04:50 PM

I'm actually looking forward to this one. Seems like it's going to be fun.

Bill GrandPre · 12-11-2007, 03:37 AM

I've been hearing that there will be no critics screenings for "Aliens vs. Predator: Requiem".

You know what that means, it's essentially the kiss of death, it's always a desperate move on the part of studios to keep a lid on the bad reviews for the first few days of a film's release at least. Speaking of desperate, this is a studio that tacked the word "Requiem" onto the title for no other reason than to have a big red "R" in the film's logo to really hammer that R rating home after everyone complained about the previous film's PG-13 rating.

I honestly think the Brothers Strause are a lot better directors than Paul WS Anderson. Having only seen their videos, commercials and short films on their website they already blow him away. They actually have talent whereas Anderson lacks basic competence.

However, of the three big flaws in the previous film (bad director, PG-13 rating and bad writer) the one that has not been rectified in this film is arguably the worst. We're talking about a Shane Salerno script here, which means this production was essentially doomed from the start. I can't even imagine a great director making this movie work with a Salerno-penned script set in Colorado. Some of the more undeniably awful things that came to light when Moriarty wrote that infamous script review for Ain't It Cool News (Google "Final calculation, taking all the decent work into consideration, it’s catastrophic." if you wanna read the whole thing) were dropped in subsequent drafts (like the K-Mart fight) but the bulk of it has made it all the way through to the final film and that's not a horrifying example of the current state of Hollywood I don't know what is.

I'm sure this movie will be better than the last one but that's not saying much and I'm sure it will still be disappointing. The last one satisfied the basic curiosity of seeing an "AvP" movie while simultaneously leaving a bad taste in the mouths of moviegoers and I can't even see this movie living up to the disappointing box-office performance of its predecessor, even if it is slightly superior.

I'd actually like to see this movie spawn another sequel because it seems like they're learning from their mistakes, although they're definitely doing it the hard way. Perhaps next time they'll say "ok, last time we hired better directors and gave it an R rating, THIS TIME we promise we're not gonna hire the guy that wrote 'Armageddon' and we aren't gonna set it on present-day Earth."

WillG · 12-11-2007, 09:45 AM

FWIW, I do believe that the first AvP did not have an advance screening either.

Inspector Hammer! · 12-11-2007, 10:45 AM

I do think that it's sad that they had to put the letter R into the title, in fact the teaser I saw didn't even call the film AvP Requiem they called it AvP R and they paused before they said "R"...desperate.

Other than that it does look more sprawling than the last one, it has a hint of Resident Evil about it, too, which I don't mind because I liked those two movies.

Chris · 12-11-2007, 10:55 AM

I have to admit, I'm pretty dissappointed in where this franchise went. I thought the ideal situation would be for this to happen way in the future; really leapfrog after the "Aliens" series; where shortly after Aliens3, Alien infestation into human worlds is significant, and well known. Predators show up and widespread war begins, and humans aren't sure of who they should be fighting..

TravisR · 12-11-2007, 11:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill GrandPre

I've been hearing that there will be no critics screenings for "Aliens vs. Predator: Requiem".

You know what that means, it's essentially the kiss of death, it's always a desperate move on the part of studios to keep a lid on the bad reviews for the first few days of a film's release at least.

Is anyone actually expecting this to be a 'good' movie? I'm just hoping that it's a cool movie with violent action scenes and that type of thing doesn't play well with critics anyway. Especially when they'll be in the midst of reviewing all of the December movies that are (self) important Oscar hopefuls.

Paul_Scott · 12-11-2007, 11:31 AM

both I and the person I was with thought the trailer was good when we saw it back in Oct. I had zero interest in AVP #1- but this one looked like it had possibilities to be an entertaining popcorn action/thriller.

I haven't been following the production though, and haven't read any script reviews.I do know that Fox consistently exhibits condescesion and disdain for fantasy related properties. They aquire these properties and then fund them at a bare minimum, and are quick to pull the plug just as the material starts picking up steam (Alien3, X-men3, Tru Calling, FF, Firefly, etc) They have the attitude like its a painful duty they have to greenlight these things.
I have an extremely low opinion of the regime at Fox and would blame the filmmakers second and the suits first.
Brett Ratner was a f'ing hero in my book for doing as well as he did with both hands tied behind his back and a hard date and almost no preproduction input.

Malcolm R · 12-11-2007, 12:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill GrandPre

I've been hearing that there will be no critics screenings for "Aliens vs. Predator: Requiem".

You know what that means, it's essentially the kiss of death, it's always a desperate move on the part of studios to keep a lid on the bad reviews for the first few days of a film's release at least.

Lately, not screening for critics has become the rule rather than the exception. Big FX event films are critic proof anyway, so what's the point in paying for special screenings? I don't think lack of critics' screenings are as big an indicator of quality, or lack thereof, as it used to be.

Jason Hughes · 12-11-2007, 01:19 PM

I'm looking forward to this. Should be great brain candy.

I do wish they would do an Alien 5 to wrap things up better than they did for Ripley in Ressurection.

Russell B · 12-11-2007, 05:50 PM

The first 5 minutes

http://uk.movies.yahoo.com/a/Aliens-...x-3687454.html