[Blake Siefken]

Again, this is a gay movie because the fact that they're gay plays a very significant role in the story. Homosexuality is what this film is about. Movies like Titanic or Walk the Line are not heterosexual movies because the fact that the characters are staright has nothing to do with the story, in BB them being gay has EVERYTHING to do with the story.

[Richard Kim]

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Again, this is a gay movie because the fact that they're gay plays a very significant role in the story. Homosexuality is what this film is about. Movies like Titanic or Walk the Line are not heterosexual movies because the fact that the characters are staright has nothing to do with the story, in BB them being gay has EVERYTHING to do with the story.

Considering the fact that the vast majority of films in the "Romance" genre are heterosexual, a film featuring a homosexual relationship is definitely bring some attention to itself. Who knows, perhaps twenty years from now a gay romance movie will seem routine and not bring as much attention to itself, much like films featuring interracial relationships are now.

[Mark-P]

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I'll go out on a limb and say it's a moral issue for me.

Well, Tim you just snared yourself there. Are you honestly going to tell me that you avoid ALL movies where the main characters behave in an immoral manner? Bank robbers, adulterers, drug users, con artists and so on? Or do you just limit it to the immorality of homosexuality?

[Chuck Mayer]

Mark,
Welcome to the thread. He didn't even say the homosexuality was what he considered immoral. Perhaps it's the adultery from both main characters. Regardless, sexuality and morality are inextricably linked for most Americans, in many different ways, so be careful who you paint with a broad brush.

Tim's been more honest than most popping in here to share his opinion, and has added to discussion.

[Josh.C]

I also chose not to see BM. I hold no ill will towards those who have seen the movie and loved it. Its just not a film that interests me, and my reasons for that are my own business. As Tim said earlier "don't want to debate it here".

I respect people with different views than my own. For Example, I loved the Passion of the Christ. I thought it did a great job of showing the world what I base my faith on. However, I would never try to make someone feel they were wrong or shallow in any way for not seeing the movie.

I feel that if I go much further I'm going to open up a whole new can of worms, and that is not the point of this post. Lets just make sure we respect everyone's opinion on sensative issue's, and that goes for poeple who don't want to watch a film like BM, as well as those who are strong advocates for the film.

[Richard Kim]

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He didn't even say the homosexuality was what he considered immoral. Perhaps it's the adultery from both main characters. Regardless, sexuality and morality are inextricably linked for most Americans, in many different ways, so be careful who you paint with a broad brush.

Then how about films featuring heterosexual characters cheating on their spouses? The IMDb lists 1,166 movies and TV shows under the keyword "adultery." I don't mean to put Tim on the spot, but would he avoid those films as well?

[Tim Glover]

Well, I've tried to be upfront and admit that I'm not consistent with this. Homosexuality shouldn't be seen by the Christian sec any more of a sin than another adulterous situation for sure. Our society over all my life I guess has glamorized heterosexual relationships whether adulterous or not...

There are alot of films that I enjoy with my daughters and friends that have wrongful acts in them. I'm far from perfect and even less consistent with most things I do. How's that? :b

[Tim Glover]

1,666 films and tv shows with adultery. Dangit, I only own about half that amount.

I realize I said too much about morality, hence the questions and now we're getting facts from IMDB.

Perhaps we can start a different thread in After Hours about the inconsistencies of our beliefs. I used to feel that drinking was a sin as a kid. Since college, I feel alot about drinking and some things about that are really cultural. I'm still not really consistent about that. I like a cold Corona every now and then by I'm hoping my daughters never touch the stuff.

Feel free to site more discrepancies. I'm sure there's more out there. :b

[Josh.C]

What if he did come out and say "homosexuality" is the moral issue he is talking about. I have just as much a right to say I believe something in "against my beliefs" as you do to say "there's nothing wrong with it". Its no different than abortion, the death penalty, or any other decision that we deal with in this country. I haven't heard Tim ONCE criticize anyone for their beliefs. If you go back and read his posts you will see that his concern was with judging him and others who don't want to see the movie, by saying those people are "not comfortable with their own sexuality". Thats a pretty bold statement to make.

I have a right to be against something, just as much as you have a right to be for something. No one "snared" thereself Mark, Tim was just clarifying his reasoning. And once again it is HIS reasoning, not yours.

[Mark-P]

Please Josh don't get your feathers ruffled, I was only pointing out an example of moral hypocrisy. And Tim has made two more posts admitting he is inconsistent on these issues. I commend him for his honesty.

[Joe Karlosi]

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What a ridiculous statement. You could apply that rationale to any movie. I don't want to see Look Who's Talking. Clearly I hate babies!

Has anyone come up with a "baby-phobia" label for that yet?