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11-26-2005, 05:08 AM
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When I first saw the title of this thread the film that came to mind was The American President.
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11-26-2005, 10:33 AM
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How are politics or politicians shown in an overall positive light in MALCOLM X?! 
The film implies the government was partly responsible in his death even!
NIXON?!
THE CANDIDATE?!
Do these films show politics or politicians in an OVERALL positive light?!
Is my thread THAT unclear? Or are there simply not that many movies that do this?
He's got the bit between his teeth... all right!
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11-26-2005, 12:45 PM
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GANDHI does NOT show politics and politicians -- either British or Indian -- in a positive light
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This set me thinking that there is proabably no film about colonialism which can show a politician in a convincing positive light. Any politician who is pro-colonialism of course falls foul of the modern mood, and any on the other side will almost inevitably be seen as unrealistically nice. |
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11-26-2005, 02:03 PM
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i was being sarcastic 
i was going to mention another film like one of the waco conspiracy films, or a michael moore film but i didn't want to set off a bunch of nonsense.
I am also thinking conjunction junction how a bill becomes a law, whatever that cartoon is called i like that one!
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11-26-2005, 02:39 PM
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There are probably a number of films that show politicians of the American side of the American revolution in a positive light. For example, 1776, Johnny Tremain, etc.
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11-26-2005, 07:54 PM
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conjunction junction how a bill becomes a law
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Uhh, that would be "I'm Just a Bill", "Conjunction Junction" was about ... uhhh... conjunctions (and, but, or, nor).
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11-26-2005, 08:20 PM
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yeah, i don't remember the name of the cartoon, people remember "conjunction junction," but "im just a bill maybe not so much."
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11-26-2005, 09:05 PM
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that would be "I'm Just a Bill"
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Of course, the counterpart to this is the Simpsons' "The Amendment Song" that shows the government in a less than ideal light.  |
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11-27-2005, 05:10 AM
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If they were showed on too much on the "positive" light it wouldn't come accross as realistic to me. Yeah, not too big of fans of their "kind".
It's funny you asked about this. EW just had an article how Hollywood avoided political themed movies after 9/11.Now they have a bunch in the works and some will be released soon. I have a feeling they won't too "flattering". |
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11-27-2005, 08:01 AM
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how a bill becomes a law, whatever that cartoon is called
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Right, the Schoolhouse Rock stuff. Not exactly films, but all the "America Rock" bits from that series ARE very pro-politics, pro-government. Don't want to engender cyncism in children of tender years! Of course, some of the songs about expansion in the West completely blip over Native Americans, so these 'toons DO engender quite a few half-truths.
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11-27-2005, 12:47 PM
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the saint he appears in that film.
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If you're looking for a film that shows a politician in a positive light, one portraying a politician as a saint would serve nicely I think.
MichealBa - most political dramas need conflict to make an interesting film for the viewer. People have listed films where the 'hero' of the film is portrayed positively, most of these films have their political opponents as villians.
Here's your question: What films depict politicians or politics in a wholly or even mostly "positive" light?
If you meant the main character, I think Malcom X meets that criteria. Gandhi, and The Candidate do as well.
Do you a mean a film where every single politician is shown in a positive light? You didn't make that clear in your question, but there won't be many of those, they'd be pretty dull films.
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11-27-2005, 01:23 PM
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I don't think there's a single politician shown in THE CANDIDATE in a wholly or almost wholly positive light, "Bill McKay" included.
And Malcolm X wasn't a politician (an elected representative in a system of government), unless the term is figuratively stretched quite a bit.
I think Haggai, who posted above, quoted and understood my original question best:
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Michael's original post specified that he was NOT talking about movies that "show a few singularly exceptional untainted individuals," which would unquestionably rule out Mr. Smith Goes to Washington, where the entire Senate is stacked against Mr. Smith.
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And that would rule out Malcolm X and Bill McKay and Gandhi, etc.
The type of film like THE AMERICAN PRESIDENT is what I'm talking about. A film that OVERALL shows the majority of politicians and the majority of a political system in a positive light. Exceptions that show the negative minority side, something that could fuel the drama, would be acceptable as long as they are clearly indicated to be the MINORITY. So, not EVERY politician has to be positive, but the majority will and so will the entire political system too, overall and in general.
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