Batman Begins' sequel: The Dark Knight (Merged) - Page 75

TonyD · 07-16-2008, 10:17 AM

there is an app on itunes now that will allow you to create a jokerized photo on your iphone and itouch.

ZacharyTait · 07-16-2008, 11:57 AM

My local IMAX theater has sold out 6 of the 8 shows on Friday and 1 of the remaining 2 is almost sold out!

cafink · 07-16-2008, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Nicholas Martin

Now this is one critic everyone can agree on...being a complete moron.

Anyone who thinks Batman & Robin is better than Begins will always be a complete moron, which Reed made clear by stating that Begins was the worst Batman movie he's seen. There's no disagreeing with that assessment of him, because to do that would be well, stupid!

I disagree.

Batman Begins was cool, but for me, it could not touch Batman and Robin, which I enjoyed for its campy silliness. My favorite Batman movie is the Adam West one, and Schumacher's films, Batman and Robin in particular, really harkened back to the lighter 60's take on the franchise, which I rather appreciated and preferred over the darker, more depressing entries in the series.

Then again, I guess my opinion holds no weight, because anyone who disagrees with you is "a complete moron." How can I argue with logic like that?

Marc_Sulinski · 07-16-2008, 02:36 PM

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Then again, I guess my opinion holds no weight, because anyone who disagrees with you is "a complete moron." How can I argue with logic like that?

I don't think the "complete moron" quote had anything to do with Reed's dislike of the movie. It has because he didn't understand how there were two versions of the Joker: the one from Batman in 1989 and the one in The Dark Knight. It just shows that he is too stupid to realize that the two series of movies are completely independent from one another.

[Edit] Nevermind, I guess the "complete moron" thing was aimed at people who like Batman and Robin. I don't like the movie, but I cetainly don't think anyone who does is a moron.

Brent M · 07-16-2008, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by cafink

Batman Begins was cool, but for me, it could not touch Batman and Robin

Are you serious?

DavidPla · 07-16-2008, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by cafink

Batman Begins was cool, but for me, it could not touch Batman and Robin, which I enjoyed for its campy silliness. My favorite Batman movie is the Adam West one, and Schumacher's films, Batman and Robin in particular, really harkened back to the lighter 60's take on the franchise, which I rather appreciated and preferred over the darker, more depressing entries in the series.

Please tell me this is a joke. Everyone is entitled to their opinion of course.. but please.. Adam West's Batman had some charm to it. Batman & Robin is an abomination of a movie. That's not even my opinion... but a fact

Nicholas Martin · 07-16-2008, 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Marc_Sulinski

I don't think the "complete moron" quote had anything to do with Reed's dislike of the movie. It has because he didn't understand how there were two versions of the Joker: the one from Batman in 1989 and the one in The Dark Knight. It just shows that he is too stupid to realize that the two series of movies are completely independent from one another.

[Edit] Nevermind, I guess the "complete moron" thing was aimed at people who like Batman and Robin. I don't like the movie, but I cetainly don't think anyone who does is a moron.

Read what I said again.

You got the first part right - about Rex Reed being a moron for not knowing the difference. However, you got the second part wrong - I said anyone - like Rex Reed - who thinks Batman & Robin is BETTER than Begins would have to be a complete moron.

Batman & Robin isn't just bad because of the dialogue and overacting, it's also very poorly made.

If someone can find something to like about it, fine but to say it's better than Begins? It's so vastly inferior in every way.

cafink · 07-16-2008, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Nicholas Martin

Read what I said again.

You got the first part right - about Rex Reed being a moron for not knowing the difference. However, you got the second part wrong - I said anyone - like Rex Reed - who thinks Batman & Robin is BETTER than Begins would have to be a complete moron.

As I said in my previous post, I do think that Batman & Robin is better than Batman Begins. But even if I didn't, your proclamation that anyone who disagrees with your assessment of the films' relative merits is "a complete moron" is rude and completely uncalled for. I've always thought the HTF was above that sort of childish name-calling.

JonZ · 07-16-2008, 03:47 PM

Batman isnt supposed to be campy or silly. Batman was always meant to be atmospheric, dark and grim.

Frank Millers opening comments in The Dark Knight Returns explains this perfectly.

From wiki:
"In the years following World War II, DC Comics "adopted a postwar editorial direction that increasingly de-emphasized social commentary in favor of lighthearted juvenile fantasy". The impact of this editorial approach was evident in Batman comics of the postwar period; removed from the "bleak and menacing world" of the strips of the early 1940s, Batman was instead portrayed as a respectable citizen and paternal figure that inhabited a "bright and colorful" environment."

Brent M · 07-16-2008, 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by cafink

As I said in my previous post, I do think that Batman & Robin is better than Batman Begins.

Um, OK, I guess you were serious. Wow......just.......wow.

DavidPla · 07-16-2008, 03:58 PM

You might enjoy Batman & Robin more than Batman Begins but there is no way in hell you think that Batman & Robin is actually a better made film than Batman Begins.. it's impossible.