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Old 04-11-2005, 04:46 PM   #61 of 91
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back in August of 1998, John Carpenter's Vampires came out. The movie starred Thomas Ian Griffith as the head vampire Valek. I thought Griffith was far more intimidating than Stephen Dorff, plus he knows martial arts

Well that and the fact that the man is roughly six foot five or so....Dorff looks like an OompaLoompa next to Griffith.


I can't agree with you about Joaquin Phoenix in Gladiator as well, he pretty much stole the show from Crowe....but not quite from Richard Harris.



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Old 04-11-2005, 04:51 PM   #62 of 91
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I'll probably be in the minority here, but I think Gene Hackman as Lex Luther in Superman was miscast. He just doesn't come across as a real maniac, more like a really brilliant person trying very hard to be a bad guy. The movie was campy and not too serious, but I just never bought that Hackman was really very evil in that role. By Superman II they had even switched him to being a sorta/kinda halfway good guy against the superevil trio threatening Earth.

Not that Hackman can't pull off a great bad guy or isn't a A+++ actor, all you need see is Unforgiven to dismiss both those assertions at once.
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Old 04-11-2005, 08:46 PM   #63 of 91
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There was a show on UPN a while ago about a bunch of video game characters coming to life. (Does anyone remember this show? It wasn't very good.) On one of the episodes the villain was played by LeVar Burton.
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Old 04-12-2005, 12:06 PM   #64 of 91
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Might immediate thought on seeing the thread title was Parker Posey in Blade Trinity. I've liked her in several roles, but she was just in the wrong movie.

Shane Brolly in Underworld was absolutely horrible as a 'leader' of the vampires.

It doesn't help that both movies were pretty well broken beyond just their villain casting choices.


As for people going against type and being inspired choices, Robin Williams easily comes to mind. I initially hated John C. McGinley as a villain. I remember early on being put off when McGinley started to show up in 'heavy' villain roles, but he really grew into it over time. It was probably the Dean Koontz adaptation Intensity that did it for me. Of course, he's put to great effect on the tv series Scrubs right now.
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Old 04-12-2005, 02:53 PM   #65 of 91
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Speaking of Robocop 3, I thought it was funny to see Stephen Root (Milton Waddams from Office Space) as Coontz who was a sub villian in the movie. He was the one that
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sold out the rebels to OCP for the all mighty dollar but then it was funny as he got killed & the ol Steve Martin lookalike said "At least we don't have to pay him"



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Old 04-12-2005, 03:05 PM   #66 of 91
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It doesn't help that both movies were pretty well broken beyond just their villain casting choices.


Actually, I thought the plot was relatively decent, it was some of the execution decisions that could have been better.

But I agree with you, that guy was Awful. I'm surprised that I forgot about him...

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Old 04-12-2005, 03:16 PM   #67 of 91
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Gary Oldman in anything :|





I kid, I kid

It wasn't Batman who was boring in the 1989 movie...it was the script. Batman is infinitely more interesting than most of his (albeit quite interesting themselves) villains. Just not in that film.

The great Shane Brolly Yes, that was abysmal beyond belief.

Ah-nuld already mentioned for the anti-film Batman and Robin...good.

Robert Patrick We all have opinions, but Patrick is incredible.

Most of the recent James Bond villains have been pretty poor. When Sophie Marceau is the best baddie in some time, you know it's slim pickings.

Interesting note on Steve Martin, Robin Williams, and Michael Keaton - these guys should be fantastic villains (and have been). One of my great pop culture theories is that comedians are easily the smartest and sharpest folks in the entertainment biz. These three were tops in that group. Everyone likes smart villains.

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At the same time you knew (realistically) that Bogosian could outTHINK Seagal in a heartbeat.
So could Sloth from The Goonies. Hardly a ringing endorsement

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Old 04-12-2005, 07:12 PM   #68 of 91
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Interesting note on Steve Martin, Robin Williams, and Michael Keaton - these guys should be fantastic villains (and have been). One of my great pop culture theories is that comedians are easily the smartest and sharpest folks in the entertainment biz. These three were tops in that group. Everyone likes smart villains.


Totally agree. Keaton as the 'renter from hell' in Pacific Heights is one of the best bad guys I've ever seen. You just loathe him by the time that movie is over. My wife and I sometimes joke that's what happens to Mr.Mom about 10 years after a messy divorce, hehe.
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Old 04-12-2005, 07:33 PM   #69 of 91
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I can't believe no one has mentioned this one yet: Hayden Christensen as Anakin Skywalker/Darth Vader. Worst casting choice ever.
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Old 04-12-2005, 11:56 PM   #70 of 91
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I don't know his name but the villian from Die Hard 2, Come on this guy played on roseanne. How about John Lithgow in Cliffhanger....Waaaaaayyy over the top, I second John Travolta.... Not a good villian.
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Old 04-13-2005, 06:38 AM   #71 of 91
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his names William Sadler and I thought he was great as Col. Stuart in Die Hard 2. The guy gleefully crashed and killed a whole plane of innocent people (on Christmas eve no less, bummer) just to make a point...the man was SERIOUS!

As for Anakin, Jake Lloyd was the mistake, not Hayden.




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